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Old 10-08-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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Coming from a group that didn't believe in the Trinity I can tell you they are genuine when they say they are Christians. They believed that trinity religions to be false. I think there is infighting with the Muslims as well. Maybe if people could just get over themselves for a minute.
I believe these forums are for discussing the topic at hand, not getting overly concerned upon posters personal beliefs. Their personal beliefs are not what we are discussing.

Those who keep referring to "personal beliefs" and bringing them up, just need a little nudge to be put back on track. it's hard to have any discussion when things become overly personal.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:13 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I believe these forums are for discussing the topic at hand, not getting overly concerned upon posters personal beliefs. Their personal beliefs are not what we are discussing.

Those who keep referring to "personal beliefs" and bringing them up, just need a little nudge to be put back on track. it's hard to have any discussion when things become overly personal.
You stated it was a requirement to believe in the trinity and then stated that people that called themselves Christians were liars if they didn't believe in the trinity. I gave you evidence to the contrary so i was asking you to back up that statement.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:17 PM
 
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You don't get to decide what is the biblical definition of Christian because there is no such definition in the Bible. Your indoctrination into whatever dogma you currently endorse does NOT privilege you to decide who is Christian, period.
Just a gentle nudge but I don't decide the definition of Christianity. Neither do you

We have an authority called the Bible. That is where the word CHRISTIAN is derived from.

THat is where you find the definition of CHRIST

Just as I don't decide the definition of a Muslim. The KORAN does. That is where the word MUSLIM is derived from.

So no one here is deciding (and neither should you so, maybe put the urge to rest?) here

I'd like to learn the various religions so if anyone knows the names of books other religions are based off of, feel free to green me.
That is where I want to learn the truth, from the source. Where the definition is derived. Otherwise I am deceiving you all or just not informed enough to be participating concerning said topic.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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You stated it was a requirement to believe in the trinity and then stated that people that called themselves Christians were liars if they didn't believe in the trinity. I gave you evidence to the contrary so i was asking you to back up that statement.
I am lost.

The bible gives the definition of Christian. Where is it you find something contrary to what I posted? Remember this isn;t about me. I knwo the urge is great to get personal, but let's try to keep it ontrack if possible

I am not familiar with the word trinity, but I think it might be used by the world as synonymous to Godhead or Tri-une Godhead?

I apologize I don't have the words the world uses about the bible down.

Most of my studying of the Bible is done at home. I'm a late bloomer if you will
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:30 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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I am so lost.

The bible gives the definition of Christian. Where is it you find something contrary to what I posted? Remember this isn;t about me. I knwo the urge is great to get personal, but let's try to keep it ontrack if possible

I am not familiar with the word trinity, but I think it might be used by the world as synonomous as Godhead or Tri-une Godhead?

I apologize I don't have the words the world uses about the bible down.

Most of my studying of the Bible is done at home. I'm a late bloomer if you will
It is about you because you are the one who stated the definition of Christian as believing in the trinity. You should be able to reference the scriptures that you are stating make the claim. I don't know what they are because I was taught differently than you. As far as I'm concerned anyone who says they are Christian is a Christian but then I'm not one so I don't have any rules about it.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:37 PM
 
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It is about you because you are the one who stated the definition of Christian as believing in the trinity. You should be able to reference the scriptures that you are stating make the claim. I don't know what they are because I was taught differently than you. As far as I'm concerned anyone who says they are Christian is a Christian but then I'm not one so I don't have any rules about it.
Again, YOU BROUGHT UP THE TRINITY, I DID NOT

Please stop making this personal. Do not pretend you didn;t bring up Trinity, anyone can go back and see your posts.

I've NEVER used the term because I DON'T know the definiton.

Again YOU brought up the Trinity but never offered a definition. I am not familiar with it so we cannot continue this discussion if I do not

know what you brought up nor the definition of the word

I am VERY interested if you would please be respectful back up your rebuttal as to why what I posted is incorrect and why you brought the trinity into this discussion. DON"T sneakily pretend you didn;t bring the word in again, that is being UNTRUTHFUL

WHAT is the Trinity??? where is this found within the authority of CHRISTIANITY?


I posted about THE GODHEAD or Tri-une Godhead, NOT the TRinity

Take a few deep breathes then reply if needed. I appreciate it

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Old 10-08-2017, 05:44 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Again, where is it you find the definition to be contrary to what I posted.

You brought in a new word called the Trinity, again is that the same as the Godhead??

Please define for me

I am VERY interested if you would please back up your rebuttal as to why what I posted is incorrect.
I think what you refer to as tri-une and Godhead are probably what I call the trinity. I'm not very familiar with the trinity or Godhead so I'm not sure. I can't rebuttal you until you show me your evidence for making the statement that believing in the Godhead is a requirement of Christianity. I'm not even sure that I can or would want to. I just want to see your reason for making the claim.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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I think what you refer to as tri-une and Godhead are probably what I call the trinity. I'm not very familiar with the trinity or Godhead so I'm not sure. I can't rebuttal you until you show me your evidence for making the statement that believing in the Godhead is a requirement of Christianity. I'm not even sure that I can or would want to. I just want to see your reason for making the claim.
You are the one that said i was incorrect

You brought up Trinity but then posted that I did it~!

Which is untrue.

Thank you for setting that straight, finally

Sorry but you need to show me where I am wrong in what I posted

It is you who says I am wrong but so far, nothing to show me otherwise
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Again, YOU BROUGHT UP THE TRINITY, I DID NOT

Please stop making this personal. Do not pretend you didn;t bring up Trinity, anyone can go back and see your posts.

I've NEVER used the term because I DON'T know the definiton.

Again YOU brought up the Trinity but never offered a definition. I am not familiar with it so we cannot continue this discussion if I do not

know what you brought up nor the definition of the word

I am VERY interested if you would please be respectful back up your rebuttal as to why what I posted is incorrect and why you brought the trinity into this discussion. DON"T sneakily pretend you didn;t bring the word in again, that is being UNTRUTHFUL

WHAT is the Trinity??? where is this found within the authority of CHRISTIANITY?


I posted about THE GODHEAD or Tri-une Godhead, NOT the TRinity

Take a few deep breathes then reply if needed. I appreciate it
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I think what you refer to as tri-une and Godhead are probably what I call the trinity. I'm not very familiar with the trinity or Godhead so I'm not sure. I can't rebuttal you until you show me your evidence for making the statement that believing in the Godhead is a requirement of Christianity. I'm not even sure that I can or would want to. I just want to see your reason for making the claim.
The words 'Trinity' from the Latin 'trinitas' and 'tri-unity' mean the same thing and with regard to God refer to the three Persons of the Godhead - The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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If someone doesn't believe in the Tr-Iune Godhead (per scripture) then they are not a Christian
If someone doesn't believe Christ became man, died and rose again to save us from our sins and be reconcilled to God, then he's not a Christian per CHRISTIAN beliefs.

I would obviously not call myself a Muslim if I do not align with the Muslims defintion of a Muslim per the Koran. If I did so, I'd be a liar and I'd hope people would call me on it.

To be a liar is to be a deceiver. No one likes liars or deceivers. They are what the world considers " a snake in the grass"
(ftr: snake is a metaphor for the devil in the garden of eden who deceived Adam and Eve)
Here it is. Post 174. You said "If someone doesn't believe in the Tr-Iune Godhead (per scripture) then they are not a Christian" L8Gr8 is asking you to cite the Scripture that backs that up.
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