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Old 11-13-2018, 05:07 PM
 
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It's always easiest to dismiss and return to our usual stomping ground/paradigm.
This forum is almost like a church of little old ladies, always suspicious of any newcomer who sits in one of their regular places.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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This forum is almost like a church of little old ladies, always suspicious of any newcomer who sits in one of their regular places.
Um, that poster has been here since 2010.
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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This forum is almost like a church of little old ladies, always suspicious of any newcomer who sits in one of their regular places.
Yes, they are quite territorial. That's why when one of them marks an area with their musk you might as well call the game.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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Have you ever studied the various ancient megaliths from around the globe? They are hewn from stone... some from top to bottom.
I'm sure the Stone-Age was very wonderful and full of its own specific marvels. Every age is. No one wants to spend money on being "the second" to complete a socio-national task.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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Are you saying we couldn't do that today, with a lot of slaves and a few decades on our hands?
We could even give "the slaves" tickets for them to choose which places to live in and what food to eat. And also free healthcare like the Egyptians did. But again, it would cost tax dollars.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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It's always easiest to dismiss and return to our usual stomping ground/paradigm.
What are we dismissing?

Do we skeptics believe that wars burn libraries? Yes.
Does our lack of evidence on the trick of how something was done mean it had to be magic or divine inspiration? No

The Egyptians, Celts, and Aztecs were not using magic to understand how to move huge rocks around and cut them up. They were using knowledge-bases, valuables, and incentives, sure. Some lost to us now, perhaps.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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What are we dismissing?

Do we skeptics believe that wars burn libraries? Yes.
Does our lack of evidence on the trick of how something was done mean it had to be magic or divine inspiration? No

The Egyptians, Celts, and Aztecs were not using magic to understand how to move huge rocks around and cut them up. They were using knowledge-bases, valuables, and incentives, sure. Some lost to us now, perhaps.
What are you prattling on about? No one is asking you to believe anything or to discuss anything!
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:56 PM
 
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What are you prattling on about? No one is asking you to believe anything or to discuss anything!
You O.K.?

The thread title is "Medical sanitation in the Old Testament"

The content of the OP included the idea that:
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What do you think about the sanitary "laws" found in Leviticus 15, particularly in regards to medical sanitation? What does it say about religious skeptics?

It's very sad to me (VERY sad) that it was not until the 1800's that the Germ Theory of Disease began in the medical world. To me, this is a profound blow against all atheists in the medical community, to their shame. They never even considered these rituals as having value before that time. Really?
What DOES that say about "religious skeptics"? Perhaps it says that they weren't in power and thus they couldn't test any of these Jewish claims that pagans were apathetic to and Christians were vehemently against.

So no, the King/(rich publishers) who made the final edits and acceptance of Leviticus did not know about "the Germ Theory of Disease" nor is the Germ Theory of Disease development in the 1800's somehow "a profound blow against all atheists in the medical community."

Like today, most of those in the medical community were pagan (HIPPOCRATIC OATH) and Christian (Christianized Hippocratic Oath). Sure Atheists are in higher rates in the medical community than in the general population; doesn't mean they hold the majority of power or sway over public opinion, decisions of testing, decisions of monetary support, etc.

So again, IF Leviticus had anything in terms of proper sanitation, it was found by skeptical critical thinking, fact gathering, mathematics, record-keeping, etc. and not by religiousness or the "positively-determined" supernatural. And let me tell you, the Jews were very skeptical of the religions around them and even of their own religious leadership... the desperate stories from their religious leaders say it all.

I'll agree that religion would have helped (and hurt) them in following guidelines for no known reasons. The priests and society would have persecuted and killed-off those who didn't tout the party line, and ignorance would have been increased, leading to more strife than good, ultimately.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:05 AM
 
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Yes. I've been watching this, and the familiar 'stomping -ground' is a couple of Science -skeptical believers coming up with some old favourites like 'science can't explain how the Egyptians cut stone stone...er...God is real".

And a couple of them getting together like a pair of old ladies character -assassinating those so -called scientists who don't really know anything and are always changing their mind. ..."...and they can't find a single transitional fossil, dear. Darwin himself said so. And Global warming is just a lie. Mr Pense said so and he's Vice president, so he must know what he's taking about..another plug of baccy dear?"
"And they can't prove that the world isn't flat, but they keep putting it in the text books.....but everyone knows them aytheists are bribing them to lie about evilooshum...hold on dear,..I need a wee..."

Yep the old stomping ground of the little old ladies who won't even change their minds.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:15 AM
 
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Yes. I've been watching this, and the familiar 'stomping -ground' is a couple of Science -skeptical believers coming up with some old favourites like 'science can't explain how the Egyptians cut stone stone...er...God is real".

And a couple of them getting together like a pair of old ladies character -assassinating those so -called scientists who don't really know anything and are always changing their mind. ..."...and they can't find a single transitional fossil, dear. Darwin himself said so. And Global warming is just a lie. Mr Pense said so and he's Vice president, so he must know what he's taking about..another plug of baccy dear?"
"And they can't prove that the world isn't flat, but they keep putting it in the text books.....but everyone knows them aytheists are bribing them to lie about evilooshum...hold on dear,..I need a wee..."

Yep the old stomping ground of the little old ladies who won't even change their minds.
It's suppose to be a discussion forum, but some seem to want to tightly guard what is discussed...these same people have found their truth and now demand a cult following for their paradigms. Almost any discussion is viewed as suspicious or threatening. I can understand cult leaders feeling that way, but not ordinary agnostics seeking answers.
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