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I've heard Rabbis say that "Kosher" wine which is not made by (observant?) Jews, but made by some Gentile following all the same rules would still not be considered "Kosher."
That's labeled as Kosher style...it may be clean, but it ain't Kosher...look for the encircled K.
I actually laughed at the idea of Gentiles being so vile and filthy that wine has to be boiled before any Jew can bear to touch it.
It has to have been boiled BEFORE it is touched by a non-Jew. Wine that was touched and then boiled is still unfit.
The issue is that, in the way olden days, wine libations were an essential part of idolatry. The libations weren't all about pouring, but even shaking and moving bottles/containers of wine. Since we can't know a person's inner thoughts, in an effort to ensure that Jews derived no benefit from items used for idolatry, the rule was established that if a non-Jew touched an open container, we had to worry about his potential intent (idolatry) so we don't use the wine. Boiled wine is of lesser quality and wouldn't be used by anyone for idolatry so its being touched would never be for the improper purposes.
It has to have been boiled BEFORE it is touched by a non-Jew. Wine that was touched and then boiled is still unfit.
The issue is that, in the way olden days, wine libations were an essential part of idolatry. The libations weren't all about pouring, but even shaking and moving bottles/containers of wine. Since we can't know a person's inner thoughts, in an effort to ensure that Jews derived no benefit from items used for idolatry, the rule was established that if a non-Jew touched an open container, we had to worry about his potential intent (idolatry) so we don't use the wine. Boiled wine is of lesser quality and wouldn't be used by anyone for idolatry so its being touched would never be for the improper purposes.
Interesting!
So, again..not scientific, and no actual medical basis that was carelessly ignored by others, hence holding medical advancement back for centuries.
Here are some examples of their ancient primitive knowledge from around the world:
...[pictures and videos of ancient buildings]...
Didn't they have very beautiful, enduring, building design and craftsmanship in the Dark Ages? We are talking about different disciplines here. Classical physics did help inform the tradition of building design, but trial and error would have done just as fine back then... It's just building, forming, shaping, and putting together, after all. Same with medicine really, it's just that a lot of diseases are the cause microscopic animal life or our microscopic multicellular make-up.
Didn't they have very beautiful, enduring, building design and craftsmanship in the Dark Ages? We are talking about different disciplines here. Classical physics did help inform the tradition of building design, but trial and error would have done just as fine back then... It's just building, forming, shaping, and putting together, after all. Same with medicine really, it's just that a lot of diseases are the cause microscopic animal life or our microscopic multicellular make-up.
Yes. And some decidedly pagan, non-Leviticus-reading (much less following) peoples accomplished amazing feats of architecture in the same centuries Leviticus would have been conceived, evolved (orally) and then written.
The Romans rather kicked butt at architecture and design (and the math and science behind these), for instance. As well as under-the-floor heating and indoor plumbing, among other things. The Egyptians didn't suck overly at design either. It's too bad they didn't read Leviticus. They'd probably all have had air conditioners blowing in the windows at the flick of a remote while leaning back to watch their flatscreen TVs if they'd only listened to the wisdom of the God of the Bible, so cruelly held down and repressed for centuries.
ETA: I'm not putting down Jewish tradition, which is beautiful, actually. I'm saying the OP's assertion (which hardly hearkens to the Jews anyway, he's defending Christianity, oddly enough...just...so weird in light of the hypothesis) that not reading ancient Bible laws held back medical science, because the Jews knew about cleaning some of their things. So did everybody. Just such a weird, weird, weird thread, IMO.
Didn't they have very beautiful, enduring, building design and craftsmanship in the Dark Ages? We are talking about different disciplines here. Classical physics did help inform the tradition of building design, but trial and error would have done just as fine back then... It's just building, forming, shaping, and putting together, after all. Same with medicine really, it's just that a lot of diseases are the cause microscopic animal life or our microscopic multicellular make-up.
It's just building, forming, shaping, and putting together, after all...that we've never been able to duplicate.
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I actually laughed at the idea of Gentiles being so vile and filthy that wine has to be boiled before any Jew can bear to touch it.
Medical sanitation in the Old Testament.
