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Old 12-08-2018, 02:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel350z View Post
A Christian told me today that Christianity is the only TRUE religion and that all other religions are "False" religions. So is Christianity the only TRUE religion?
If that is so, then Christianity was built on a false religion thereby making it false...
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Old 12-08-2018, 02:56 AM
 
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The trinity is only "foundational" to being a "historically Catholic" or "Fundamentalist Protestant" Christian. Becuase they both base themselves on thinking the "true early Christians" were the Trinitarian ones. The KJV Bible and Catholic doctrines makes most under the idea that there is a mysterious trinity in the one single God.

Some Muslims are told the truth, which is that Muhammad knew about Trinitarian Christians as still saw them as "People of the Book" and thus "not infidels" yet still "heavily errering by associating God with multiple personalities or with prophet Jesus." Which is why Muhammad outlined against "associating other with Allah" not many polytheists at the time viewed the gods as merely avatars of Allah, but Christians clearly had Jesus as an eternal Avatar/Personality(1/3) of Allah.

Other Muslims are probably told lies about how only Unitarian Christians are "not infidels" and that Muhammad only knew about such Unitarian sects as "People of the Book."



If you can convince people to say they believe crazy ridiculous concepts, those people will be more manipulatable and useful in conquest of others, obviously.
It was the Jews that were called The People of the Book and this was during the Golden Age of Jewry...
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:14 AM
 
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Thank you for the compliment :: sigh :::
You can rely on me for many such complements when merited.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:04 AM
 
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What "evidence"?
The evidence you would get if you asked in the science section. It usually turns out not to be a god.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:09 AM
 
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Christian is found in the bible and that is where you also find the definition
It's not rocket science.

We don't worry about what others claim. Go to the source to find the truth
A contradictory source modified with later theological ideas? It does not sound like a good place to find the truth.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:11 AM
 
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OK.

How do you answer those two questions, and what evidence can you provide to back up those answers?
I would answer those in the science section, where I and others will happily provide the evidence. I say would as usually the religious avoid asking those questions there for some reason.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:15 AM
 
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Christians are baptized into the Trinity. This is the new birth

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matt 28:19
Which was added to the NT at a later date. Eusebius records the original was 'baptize in my name', with no mention of the Trinity (Demonstratio Evangelica, book 3).
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:18 AM
 
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But any kind of religious skeptic is going to call it nonsense. Which tells me that skeptics are not that bright since they all seem to read the Bible like a 6 year old. Preferably with cartoon pictures.
This must be the 476th time this year you have resurrected this straw man.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:20 AM
 
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That's the truth. They read the Bible like 6 year olds. They seem to have no literary knowledge. If they really wanted to debate anyone on the Bible at their own level, then a kindergarten class would be the perfect place for them to find worthy candidates. And the great thing is that there will always be a new class of candidates each year, as the previous year's class become jaded first graders who sadly begin to learn about the art of stories and lose their innocence.
I will debate you on two conditions. You use a Koine Greek Bible, and you read what the early Christians actually wrote. To make it easy for you, you only need to read Justin Martyr and Eusebius.
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Old 12-08-2018, 04:39 AM
 
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This must be the 476th time this year you have resurrected this straw man.
And a very abusive one. I find this detestation bewildering. It's because they believe in a god (sorta) and we don't, and we are trying to push religious influence back into the individual Church or home.And they somehow have a problem with this, even if they don't believe the religion. With Ozzy, I get conflicting signals about whether he does or not.
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