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I think it doesn’t matter if I admit or not, the dictionary already told you what’s the meaning of (religious) faith”.
So, if “faith” is based on evidence then it’s not “faith” anymore as it does not meet the very definition of “faith” per the dictionary.
Now that you, hopefully, learned the MEANINGS of the word “faith” , you won’t demand evidence when someone says he has faith in God, BECAUSE faith is NOT based on evidence.
And yet quite a few faithers on this forum claim just the opposite. In FACT, this thread does.
Exactly. Faith gets the Muslim, Jew, Christian and Mormon to believe divergent things. Faith is a lousy way to strive towards truth.
Or take my hometown. Within a block are methodist, presbyterian, baptist, catholic, and episcopal churches. They are so far apart in their christian beliefs that have to build separate buildings because they can't sit down and worship together.
Or take my hometown. Within a block are methodist, presbyterian, baptist, catholic, and episcopal churches. They are so far apart in their christian beliefs that have to build separate buildings because they can't sit down and worship together.
That is such a loaded comment. Do you really believe that?
I feel like if they were all the same denomination you would criticize that also.
its alot here, lets keep it simple, giveth and taketh.
word of caution, I do not tell anybody that blind (religious) faith is acceptable in any way shape or form. I only use what we know to describe those we don't know. I tell everybody, if it doesn't match regular commonsense and reason don't believe it.
Frankly, I will be using how you point to a definition of blind faith and how you deploy it to reach conclusion as an example of what to be aware of when I about it. And you are right. My observation based faith produced cell phones. blind faith produced very little past self help stuff. for me, its about how you believe, not what you believe.
also, "nobody knows". I do hope that you can just say "nobody knows for now" and do not say "nobody knows so it must be god". I mean, if nobody knows how do we insert "its god" when we don't know?
back to topic ...
giveth and taketh away what?
Before we move any further, lets very briefly touch this "blind faith" thingy.
In your understanding, what exactly does it mean when we used the term "blind faith" in a theological discussion?
No.
Because ,what you rather need is try to understand the very basic English vocabulary before we even move forward.
Open a dictionary and find the meaning of "Faith".
Here is one.
"Belief that is not based on proof"
There is no more argument left after this. BECAUSE, faith does NOT require proof - AND - if you don't need proof then you don't run after "data" either. How hard is is to understand?
But yes, what you CAN do is to take it up with all the dictionaries in the world, and request them to remove the word "Faith" from the dictionary because there is no such thing exist.
"belief not based on proof" ... thats blind faith.
"BECAUSE, faith does NOT require proof" ... blind faith.
My faith is observational based "faith". i use measuring and calculation, along with common sense, to say that humans are in a system of life. Thats the god you think you know.
Now that you, hopefully, learned the MEANINGS of the word “faith” , you won’t demand evidence when someone says he has faith in God, BECAUSE faith is NOT based on evidence.
Yes...that's the whole point. Believing that something is true when there is no verifiable evidence that it is and, in many cases of god belief, verifiable evidence that it is not true is illogical because it is something you would never, ever do in any other aspect of your daily life.
I'd love to see your reaction if I knocked on your door and asked you for $1000, with the promise that I would return some time in the future and give you $10,000. I guarantee that the first thing you would ask me for is verifiable evidence that what I promised was true - and if I said that I didn't have such evidence and that you would just have to have faith that I'd return, you would wish me good day and close the door right? Yet with your god belief, the scenario above is exactly what you are doing.
Or take my hometown. Within a block are methodist, presbyterian, baptist, catholic, and episcopal churches. They are so far apart in their christian beliefs that have to build separate buildings because they can't sit down and worship together.
As I have sad before, if this god exists, it is one lousy communicator.
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