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There are many ways to get community and fellowship. Go to the YMCA. Join meetup.com. Go to the senior center. It may flabbergast you to know that people in non-christian countries don't rely on a christian church for community and fellowship.
Do christians always throw in an insult in every conversation? That doesn't seem very fellowship-like. The christians I know don't. Maybe you're not getting the right kind of fellowship.
If you are saying I should go to church more, then maybe you are right.
You confuse faith with trust and probability that is based on verifiable evidence and experience. When we get on an aeroplane to travel to the other side of the world, we do not take it of 'faith' that we will get to our destination. What we do is examine the verifiable evidence and the verifiable evidence is that 99.9% of aeroplanes reach their destination. We don't test a chair before we sit on it because the verifiable evidence is that 99.9% of chairs do no not collapse when people sit on them.
So our decisions are taken based on what is verifiable, known, trusted and proven. Contrast that with 'faith' which is ... 'believing that something is true when there is no verifiable evidence to show that it is and, in many cases, verifiable evidence to show that it isn't true.' So IF the verifiable evidence was that 99.9% of aeroplanes crashed before reaching their destinations but we still got on them or 99.9% of chairs collapsed when people sat on them but we still sat on them, well THEN we would be operating on 'faith' if we still flew on aeroplanes or sat on chairs without testing them first... because we are believing something is true when their is no verifiable evidence that it is or verifiable/testable evidence that it isn't true.
Do you not see the difference between believing/accepting that something is true based on verifiable, testable evidence and believing that something is true on 'faith'?
So to answer your post. No. I do not take my morning pills based on faith. I take them based on the experience, knowledge and verifiable evidence that they have been tested and analysed, gone through vigorous safety and quality control and that the same pills have been taken by me for some 20 years without incident. Now it's possible that some terrorist has contaminated the batch I am going to take...but is the possibility of that high enough to have me taking them on 'faith'? Of course not!
So think about it.
What kinda “data” would you need to believe in the existence of God?
From your logic, the one I can think of would sound something like this.
“153K people die every day, which is roughly about what? 55 million people that die every year.
Out of those 55 million 99.9% come back to life for a few minutes to tell us that there is a God”
Does that even make sense to you?
If yes, then good luck. Keep on waiting till this happens.
And as I have stated many times before that I have no problem if someone!s logic, intelligence and common sense tells them that the entire universe and everything in it came together all by itself, and hence there is no God, or call it a force, that designed and created it all.
If that’s what you believe then that’s what you believe. I don’t have an issue with that.
People still want that community and fellowship with each other. That's a healthy part of being a human being. The Bible provides a way for that to happen. It contains stories of people united together in common faith. People can work together in spite of their differences because they are able to place others above themselves, and focusing on the needs of others is natural and good for a person to do.
Atheism is unnatural.
It's really sad that some people are so blind to that.
So think about it.
What kinda “data” would you need to believe in the existence of God?
From your logic, the one I can think of would sound something like this.
“153K people die every day, which is roughly about what? 55 million people that die every year.
Out of those 55 million 99.9% come back to life for a few minutes to tell us that there is a God”
Does that even make sense to you?
If yes, then good luck. Keep on waiting till this happens.
So think about it.
What kinda “data” would you need to believe in the existence of God?
From your logic, the one I can think of would sound something like this.
“153K people die every day, which is roughly about what? 55 million people that die every year.
Out of those 55 million 99.9% come back to life for a few minutes to tell us that there is a God”
Does that even make sense to you?
No it doesn't. It's gobbldegook and nothing at all to do with the difference between 'faith' and trust based on verifiable evidence.
Look, everyone may have a different journey as to how they formed their faith - and I can't speak for all. I can't judge them all. I think there isn't a one size fits all rule to form a faith.
In my personal opinion, the way it works is, and I have posted this many times.
I get it gc.
But you start at "Faith" needs no evidence.". You are starting with "I need no evidence to believe what I want to believe."
I just don't see how you thinks that's ok. Believe me GC, we atheist that think the exact same way. They don't care, not one bit, what science data shows, they will deny anything that points to us being part of a larger more complex system better described as life over describing it as non life.
I just do get how people can just belief what they want because they want to. people running around doing this leads us to anti-religious socialism and fascism theism. and they will kill anybody that doesn't follow a blind faith.
So think about it.
What kinda “data” would you need to believe in the existence of God?
From your logic, the one I can think of would sound something like this.
“153K people die every day, which is roughly about what? 55 million people that die every year.
Out of those 55 million 99.9% come back to life for a few minutes to tell us that there is a God”
Does that even make sense to you?
If yes, then good luck. Keep on waiting till this happens.
And as I have stated many times before that I have no problem if someone!s logic, intelligence and common sense tells them that the entire universe and everything in it came together all by itself, and hence there is no God, or call it a force, that designed and created it all.
If that’s what you believe then that’s what you believe. I don’t have an issue with that.
no GC, its about assigning traits to god. I just can't, in all honesty. teach that blind faith is anything but nonsense and dangerous. we would not have made cell phones if we just believed what we wanted.
what traits do you assign it that lead back to what we know?
list one, lets see if we can link it to the standard model. its better you do it, but I think I need to show you how we think as apposed to what we think.
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