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Do you all reallyreallyreallyreally want to live FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER without end??? What will you do forever and ever and ever without end? I and some others (even yourself, possibly?) might actually find that you'd welcome simple extinction or expiration of body/mind/spirit after whatever passage of time . . . instead of living forever and ever in what OTHERS have labeled a 'paradise' (or 'heaven'). Would I myself actually experience it as being a 'paradise'-like way of existance to my own discernment? Maybe God has labeled it as a 'paradise' or 'heaven' from His own perspective but any of us might come to feel otherwise if we actually experienced it over whatever stretch of time and may actually come to welcome an 'endless dreamless sleep' instead of eternal existence."
Just "food-for-thought" to ponder.
Oh, I've pondered it, and my answer is YES!
Think about how many atoms there are in the universe. I believe it's 10^80 atoms. Let's say each atom in the universe represents one year. Even after 10^80 years, that's absolutely nothing in terms of eternity!
Think about how many atoms there are in the universe. I believe it's 10^80 atoms. Let's say each atom in the universe represents one year. Even after 10^80 years, that's absolutely nothing in terms of eternity!
How does the finite define/determine the infinite?
You are responsible. Salvation is offered to everyone. Your choice.
Which is it, I can choose or I am blinded by Satan?
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And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. Luke 11:9-10
Yes, i have read the Bible. In it's original Greek as well.
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How do you get John 8:44 is talking about anyone other than satan?
It is what the Greek says.
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Jesus never walked the earth. Huh. That's news to everyone in the NT, the Gospels, Acts, the 500 people who saw even after His resurrection.
And? I did not write Hebrews. Do not blame me because your bible contradicts itself.
As for the 500, the Greek says they had a vision. And there are good reasons to think the 500 is a spelling error, and it should read at Pentecost (as in Acts, where hey did NOT see the risen Jesus).
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His sacrifice was on a Cross. Here. Why would He make a sacrifice in heaven?
Why are you asking me, I did not write Hebrews? How old do you think I am, 2,000?
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The tabernacle not made by human hands is His body.
Not according to Hebrews, where the heavenly tabernacle is the heavenly copy of the one in Jerusalem.
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Maybe you do know a bit about cults....
Yes, I like to read about how the mind works.
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Think about how many atoms there are in the universe. I believe it's 10^80 atoms. Let's say each atom in the universe represents one year. Even after 10^80 years, that's absolutely nothing in terms of eternity!
Would you care to address the two questions waiting for you in post#193?
Your criticism only undercuts the myriad beliefs ABOUT God, NOT the existence of God, period. Whatever those people believe ABOUT God does NOT invalidate their experiences of God regardless of who or what they believe is God.
You are responsible. Salvation is offered to everyone. Your choice.
And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. Luke 11:9-10
How do you get John 8:44 is talking about anyone other than satan?
Jesus never walked the earth. Huh. That's news to everyone in the NT, the Gospels, Acts, the 500 people who saw even after His resurrection.
His sacrifice was on a Cross. Here. Why would He make a sacrifice in heaven?
The tabernacle not made by human hands is His body.
Maybe you do know a bit about cults....
Can you try thinking for yourself without bible crap?
The dumber the believer, the stronger the Fundashield Of Determined Ignorance.
Ya can't talk sense with the senseless.
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