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Old 04-07-2020, 11:05 AM
 
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That depends on the traits of the god you are talking about. The more the traits line up with the universe the more valid the god is.

Of course that confuses people. And its my opinion that people that do get confused might what to back off of their insistence that we follow their statement of belief about god (yes god or anti-god)'

The trick is: understanding when one knows enough about a topic to think one is right but not realizing one doesn't know enough to know they are wrong.
Hey! I just posted that quote (in bold) in another thread! Also let be known who said it I might add...

 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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yuppers definitely anything we hold dear can look like a dogma. Like I follow the scientific method. Its almost a dogma to me. I can understand when people say to me "you take that on blind faith". I mean, they have a point.

back to the steps in judging reliability we go.
I don't mind the look of dogma as much as I mind the look of self-centered egotism. That's more what I was getting at.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:11 AM
 
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Great analogy! The dumb bull keeps chasing the stupid red cape because it knows no better. The Matador has superior knowledge. Yep, I like the analogy!
Don't mind you calling me dumb, but why pick on the bull? Superior knowledge about the exchange represented in this forum would have you better understanding the meaning of that analogy, but egos and misinterpretation being what they are in this forum as well, I am in no way surprised by your upside down understanding.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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Don't mind you calling me dumb, but why pick on the bull? Superior knowledge about the exchange represented in this forum would have you better understanding the meaning of that analogy, but egos and misinterpretation being what they are in this forum as well, I am in no way surprised by your upside-down understanding.
I called you nothing. I simply interpreted YOUR analogy.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Germany
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You remind me of the bullfighter who teases the bull to charge the red cape only to pull it away time and time again until the poor bull is utterly exhausted and ultimately put down. If only you would stand still, put the cape down and give the bull just one good shot. We'd finally see then who would be doing the scattering.
Except for your analogy to work, the bull must get exhausted, the matador must actually have a cape, and the matador must never get hit instead of the constant goring IWas does get.

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Why DO you encourage the likes?
A break from work that helps to improve my English, it amuses me, I hate dishonest people, and I have knowledge honest people are interested in.

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Comment #4786 and you're still asking for the games to stop? We were well beyond that possibility many thousands of pages ago. Wouldn't you say?
Just pointing out the dishonesty for any new comers.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Great analogy! The dumb bull keeps chasing the stupid red cape because it knows no better. The Matador has superior knowledge. Yep, I like the analogy!
He uses creationist arguments that refute his position. Just saying.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:39 AM
 
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He uses creationist arguments that refute his position. Just saying.
Wish I could stay and play while helping your English too. Pointing out dishonesty works for me as well, but I've got to sign off now before figuring out what you mean by this last comment of yours...

I use creationist arguments to refute my positions?

Maybe with the next break from work, you can explain what you mean more specifically? You surely lost me with that one. If this has something to do with the bull and the matador again, maybe best to just never mind!

Thanks, cheers and until tomorrow...
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Wish I could stay and play while helping your English too. Pointing out dishonesty works for me as well, but I've got to sign off now before figuring out what you mean by this last comment of yours...

I use creationist arguments to refute my positions?
No, Iwas uses creationist arguments.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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No cigar for you either, and no soup as well. Brains haven't got enough power to transmit diddly for any meaningful distance at all. It's a simple fact of the laws of physics and field strength.

No, you can't go making up some 'majick' to claim otherwise. You can transmit all the whacky crap you want along the twisted neural pathways inside your own skull, but it doesn't go anywhere until your fingers hit the keyboard and the verbal diarrhea flows out...and lately, it seems to be even whackier than it used to be.
I have sometimes wondered how much transmission power the brain actually has. It takes sensitive instruments to measure brain activity in contact with the skin. And then I wonder how someone can read my mind. I have experienced this once. I was about to say something to the guy but before I could, he looked at me and said my exact words! So he wasn't even looking at me - he was talking to someone else!? He was reputed to be able to read my wife's daughters mind (he was a boyfriend - ex-boyfriend).

Reading body language is one thing, but the exact words and without looking at the person? Well I suppose there is nothing wrong with having the same thoughts at the same time and seeing someone wanting to say something in one's peripheral vision and using the same words because they were the appropriate words but it was still weird.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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J. Warner Wallace was an atheist homicide detective. He decided to put apply his professional skills to this matter, and ended up discovering that biblical Christianity is true, and the eyewitness account of the resurrection of Jesus are reliable.
I have a degree in law enforcement, was a police officer before being promoted to detective sergeant, was a private investigator and worked as a paralegal.

The charade that Wallace calls an "investigation" is shoddy, but then he probably wasn't that good of a detective.

The statements of the so-called witnesses conflict. If he didn't see that, it's either because his investigation was superficial at most, or because he didn't want to see it.

I'll face off with him anytime you want.

I'm willing to bet that Wallace relied on the King Joke Vision, which is why his investigation failed.

I relied on manuscripts, not the King Joke Vision.

Why?

Because it's a proven fact the King Joke Vision lies.

If Wallace was an honorable man, he would admit that Mark claims Jesus cast out demons from one man and the demons then possessed a herd of pigs which are claimed to have fled to the Sea of Galilee, while Luke claims it was two men, and not one man.

Moreover, Mark claims the incident occurred at Gerasa, while Luke claims it happened at Gadara.

In a most Göbbels-like manner, the King Joke Vision deceives everyone by claiming that both incidents took place at third town: Gerge.

That's why no serious investigator would even consider using the King Joke Vision, because the text has been repeatedly proven to be faulty.

So, I just exposed your hero as a charlatan.

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Pretending to be an atheist then turning xian is a great way to sell books to the gullible.
It most certainly is.

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I asked, “Let me know if you disagree with any of Wallace's reasoning. Pick the most obvious flaw in his logic, if you detect any“.

Did you find any obvious flaws in Wallace’s logic? Pick the one you think is the easiest for you to ‘refute.’
Be specific. I’m not interested in more of your pointless meanderings.
He failed to conduct an investigation, so his entire line of reasoning is flawed.
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