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Old 12-23-2020, 02:56 PM
 
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It seems to me that it's rather self-explanatory.
If it was self-explanatory, I wouldn't have asked.
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Old 12-23-2020, 02:57 PM
 
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Of course it did.
The hell it does!

OK seriously, where does it say hell exists? I've done a google search and it seems that hell is absent from the OT.
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First mention of hell in the Bible
"Gehenna" in the New Testament, where it is described as a place where both soul and body could be destroyed (Matthew 10:28) in "unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43). The word is translated as either "Hell" or "Hell fire" in many English versions.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:02 PM
 
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I hope you're not a first responder.
You obviously don't get it. Oh well. Par for the course, I suppose...
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:03 PM
 
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The hell it does!

OK seriously, where does it say hell exists? I've done a google search and it seems that hell is absent from the OT.
Let's say it's not in the OT. Even if it's not, what's you point?
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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Notice who it said sinned, though. The Bible says Adam sinned. He was the leader, she was the helpmate. He sinned.
only' cause she had no clothes on.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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only' cause she had no clothes on.
Neither did he.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:12 PM
 
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Neither did he.
exactly.
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Old 12-23-2020, 03:49 PM
 
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Does it concern you at all of the multiple of people of other faiths died at the hands of Christians because of having a different faith? Or even of Christians killed by other Christians as her it is so that you can live in a certain type of Christianity?

All those lives are as important as the ones you mentioned. No more but no less.
Yes, there are plenty of atheists who have used the label of Christianity. Do you have a point?
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Old 12-23-2020, 04:46 PM
 
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Yes, there are plenty of atheists who have used the label of Christianity. Do you have a point?
My point

When the Spanish in 1792 gave their Jewish residents the choice of leaving the country, converting to Christianity or being put to death, conversion wasn't really voluntarily nor was it atheists forcing Jews to convert.

When the Earl of Orkney was given the choice od convert to Christianity (and all of his subjects) or die it wasn't for concern for his afterlife. And unlike your belief it wasn't atheists forcing his coversion.

My point was addressing solely the comment that the reason for trying to get non Christians to adopt Christainity was for concern for people's afterlife. Once you threaten to kill another if they don't adopt your religion the claim that concern for their afterlife becomes a false one. I'm not saying that many do believe in trying to save some from going to Hell but there is lots of evidence to show other motives.

Is your point that Christians are too perfect to do anything wrong so they must of been atheists? Otherwise what point are you trying to make?
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Old 12-23-2020, 06:41 PM
 
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My point

When the Spanish in 1792 gave their Jewish residents the choice of leaving the country, converting to Christianity or being put to death, conversion wasn't really voluntarily nor was it atheists forcing Jews to convert.

When the Earl of Orkney was given the choice od convert to Christianity (and all of his subjects) or die it wasn't for concern for his afterlife. And unlike your belief it wasn't atheists forcing his coversion.

My point was addressing solely the comment that the reason for trying to get non Christians to adopt Christainity was for concern for people's afterlife. Once you threaten to kill another if they don't adopt your religion the claim that concern for their afterlife becomes a false one. I'm not saying that many do believe in trying to save some from going to Hell but there is lots of evidence to show other motives.

Is your point that Christians are too perfect to do anything wrong so they must of been atheists? Otherwise what point are you trying to make?
Not true. Christianity is about how we treat each other while here on earth, as much as how we treat GOD. It's pretty much what's summed up in the Ten Commandments, and the rest of the bible.
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