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Old 08-25-2022, 04:19 AM
 
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You posted a link that confirmed violent crime is up over last year. Homicides are down, but overall the more serious categories are up.

Let the reader note that this poster thinks a a count of 503 events last year vs. 504 events this year, a 0.2% increase is confirmation that violent crime is "rising". The Providence Police call it 0% because a 0.2% difference is noise in the measurement. And he still won't admit comparisons to five year averages shows useful information.

I think most readers will agree that this horse has been beaten to death.

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Old 08-25-2022, 04:43 AM
 
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Indeed. A man without a party. Too bad you're pro-choice, anti-gun and an environmentalist. Ditch these little ticks & the republicans might take you in - even if some would hold their nose. But, you're right. No big tent parties these days. I blame where it all started. The Civil Rights Act of 1964.
I don't think you've put your finger on the problem accurately. It seems it wasn't that long ago when there was room for ideological diversity in the big two parties. For instance, Republicans had pro-choice members and Democrats had pro-life members. And it is abortion that really is the lightning rod for the two parties. It's not race, though the Democrats would have minority populations believe that.

I think polls have been showing an increasing dissatisfaction with both major parties. My guess is big party intolerance for ideological diversity has something to do with that. [Ed.] Pew Research recently released a study that looks into partisan hostility, for the curious reader.

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Old 08-25-2022, 07:41 AM
 
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Providence is safe for a city of its size, we can agree on that. Of course Democrats are responsible for the gun violence in our cities. Who else did you think? I'm in a tough place personally. I'm a pro-labor, pro-union, pro-choice, anti-gun environmentalist so I wouldn't make much of a Republican. By today's standards, I don't make a very good Democrat either. I've definitely got some thinking to do.
Yeah: Ya know how the Democratic Party has changed so dramatically? You clearly got that part down pat.

Well so has the Republican Party. Otherwise I couldn't be a member.

And don't let the MSM and Cocaine Mitch define what a "Republican" is. They want it both ways. Worship the Cheneys, but also still pretend the Republican Party is the same ole' source of evil it always was.

Nope, that's the Democrats now - sorry.

Maybe you should take a look some time.

Sorry if I'm pissing on your parade Massnative
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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As for abortion - most Americans do not support it after the first trimester, which is the Republican Party platform. Dems used to be "Safe, legal and rare". Now they're like "I just killed my 9 month old, let's celebrate on Tik Tok!"

Most Americans agree with Republicans.

But the Leftist media and its appartchiks pose the question "Pro Choice/Pro Life"? without nuance in order to mislead the public.

Who'd a thunk it?

Did I mention violence in Providence is on the rise? Like everywhere else?
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Old 08-25-2022, 08:09 AM
 
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As for abortion - most Americans do not support it after the first trimester, which is the Republican Party platform. Dems used to be "Safe, legal and rare". Now they're like "I just killed my 9 month old, let's celebrate on Tik Tok!"

Most Americans agree with Republicans.

But the Leftist media and its appartchiks pose the question "Pro Choice/Pro Life"? without nuance in order to mislead the public.

Who'd a thunk it?

Did I mention violence in Providence is on the rise? Like everywhere else?
I agree with Republicans on far more issues than with Democrats, but not on those most dear to me. I do see a day of reckoning ahead for those of a Progreesive ideology within my Party. My opinion, formed from daily personal experience, is that Black Americans are piecing together that these vile and malignant phonies are turning the Democratic Party into the worst enemy they could hope for. Along the current trajectory, it won't end well for either.
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Old 08-25-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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Yeah: Ya know how the Democratic Party has changed so dramatically? You clearly got that part down pat.

Well so has the Republican Party. Otherwise I couldn't be a member.

And don't let the MSM and Cocaine Mitch define what a "Republican" is. They want it both ways. Worship the Cheneys, but also still pretend the Republican Party is the same ole' source of evil it always was.

Nope, that's the Democrats now - sorry.

Maybe you should take a look some time.

Sorry if I'm pissing on your parade Massnative
The answer is simple but impossible. Bring back Ike and JFK.
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Old 08-25-2022, 08:33 AM
 
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As for abortion - most Americans do not support it after the first trimester, which is the Republican Party platform. Dems used to be "Safe, legal and rare". Now they're like "I just killed my 9 month old, let's celebrate on Tik Tok!"

Most Americans agree with Republicans.

But the Leftist media and its appartchiks pose the question "Pro Choice/Pro Life"? without nuance in order to mislead the public.

Who'd a thunk it?

Did I mention violence in Providence is on the rise? Like everywhere else?
And yes, pertinent to the discussion, the plague of gun violence ripping apart our inner cities, can be laid squarely at the feet of today's Liberals. While they're busy studying charts of Whiteness in their BLM t-shirts, even the most clueless of Democratic mayors are starting to find religion in "police based solutions". As we used to say on the North Shore, light dawns on marble head.

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Old 08-25-2022, 08:57 AM
 
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Providence is safe for a city of its size, we can agree on that. Of course Democrats are responsible for the gun violence in our cities. Who else did you think? I'm in a tough place personally. I'm a pro-labor, pro-union, pro-choice, anti-gun environmentalist so I wouldn't make much of a Republican. By today's standards, I don't make a very good Democrat either. I've definitely got some thinking to do.

At least on the local/state level, you still have pragmatic Republicans left around like Alan Fung (although good luck to him standing his ground if/when he goes to DC). It's on the national level that's the problem for both parties, where the Republicans have abandoned fiscal conservatism/responsibility and Democrats have abandoned labor. Both to appease their lowest common denominator of voters, and both abandoning their bread and butter. I see both as pretty hopeless right now, and don't see joining either as a solution to the future or any of our problems. I rarely agree with anything Professor Croissant says, but he is correct on his mirror analogy. The first major party that figures out how to use one and learn from it, will be the first to regain any form of integrity and ability to move our country forward from here.
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Old 08-25-2022, 09:01 AM
 
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At least on the local/state level, you still have pragmatic Republicans left around like Alan Fung (although good luck to him standing his ground if/when he goes to DC). It's on the national level that's the problem for both parties, where the Republicans have abandoned fiscal conservatism/responsibility and Democrats have abandoned labor. Both to appease their lowest common denominator of voters, and both abandoning their bread and butter. I see both as pretty hopeless right now, and don't see joining either as a solution to the future or any of our problems. I rarely agree with anything Professor Croissant says, but he is correct on his mirror analogy. The first major party that figures out how to use one and learn from it, will be the first to regain any form of integrity and ability to move our country forward from here.
The closest a "Progressive" of today has been to a picket line is crossing one.
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Old 08-25-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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Let the reader note that this poster thinks a a count of 503 events last year vs. 504 events this year, a 0.2% increase is confirmation that violent crime is "rising". The Providence Police call it 0% because a 0.2% difference is noise in the measurement. And he still won't admit comparisons to five year averages shows useful information.

I think most readers will agree that this horse has been beaten to death.

It's not a significant increase, overall. Not a decrease, either. Aggravated assaults are up 10% YOY, up 2% over 5 years. The Providence PD have done a great job getting guns off the street, maybe the thugs are using more knives and stuff now? Or is their marksmanship getting that much worse? Does it not bother you that shootings/stabbings, etc. are up this year despite the (thank God) fewer homicides???



I never said the five year average isn't useful, but it wasn't what I was talking/asking about. That is another conversation for another day.
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