Things you don't like about Seattle (Renton, Wenatchee: condo, moving to, authority)

[Interpol76]

There is this VERY creepy anti-christian element here. I have met a lot of people here who are downright obsessed with their anti-christian beliefs (but seem to have absolutely no problem with any other religious belief). It almost reminds me of the deep South with a opposite belief set. Seattle can be a nice place to live, but people here are generally closed minded as anything you will ever experience in the bible belt.

[skidamarink]

Honestly? What I don't like about Seattle is how it is a big city but much of it feels like the suburbs to me. Outside of downtown, Capitol Hill, and a few other busy streets, I don't really feel like I'm in an urban area. Some people might like this, but I moved here from the suburbs in hopes of getting an "urban feel." But sometimes it feels like Seattle is just a giant suburb with all the disadvantages of a big city (high cost of living, bad traffic, homeless people). Unlike many, I actually don't like seeing houses and families everywhere. I like big, tall skyscrapers and lots of concrete. This sounds really simplistic, but I've always equated "big city living" as tons of tall buildings, business people scurrying to work in their clean pressed suits, artistic venues, active nightlife, and an overall busy vibe. But you go to neighborhoods like Wallingford, Ballard, Queen Anne, or even the rest of Capitol Hill and it seems to be nothing but families in houses on quiet streets. Not as bland and cookie cutter as most suburbs, but still not that interesting.

[ladderoflocus]

Originally Posted by skidamarink

Honestly? What I don't like about Seattle is how it is a big city but much of it feels like the suburbs to me. Outside of downtown, Capitol Hill, and a few other busy streets, I don't really feel like I'm in an urban area. Some people might like this, but I moved here from the suburbs in hopes of getting an "urban feel." But sometimes it feels like Seattle is just a giant suburb with all the disadvantages of a big city (high cost of living, bad traffic, homeless people). Unlike many, I actually don't like seeing houses and families everywhere. I like big, tall skyscrapers and lots of concrete. This sounds really simplistic, but I've always equated "big city living" as tons of tall buildings, business people scurrying to work in their clean pressed suits, artistic venues, active nightlife, and an overall busy vibe. But you go to neighborhoods like Wallingford, Ballard, Queen Anne, or even the rest of Capitol Hill and it seems to be nothing but families in houses on quiet streets. Not as bland and cookie cutter as most suburbs, but still not that interesting.

If you are seeking large scale urbanity, you'll hardly find it out West. SF is the closest thing you'll find to large scale urbanity out West. But even many parts of SF feels suburban (esp the western half). I suppose parts of LA have large scale urbanity, but getting around without a car can be quite a chore there.

[seattlenextyear]

Originally Posted by Interpol76

There is this VERY creepy anti-christian element here...

There is this VERY creepy christian element here. It's called "Mars Hill Church" and I believe its followers might actually be aliens.

[victorianpunk]

Originally Posted by seattlenextyear

There is this VERY creepy christian element here. It's called "Mars Hill Church" and I believe its followers might actually be aliens.

Good point. But still, that is just a few fundies...the Crazy Dawkin's Witnesses? They are a ton of them. You can't throw a rock in Seattle without it landing on someone who screams "that couldn't be divine judgement because there is no God! That rock is just a natural phenomenon, you hear me! I don't believe in your non-existent God!"

I mean, if you're an atheist, cool, whatever. But why focus on something they don't believe in so much? I can't stand American football, but you don't see me rampaging on how I can't stand it. I just shrug, say it's not for me and do something else.

This guy here reminds me of so many Seattle Dawkin's Witnesses:



The Trouble with Atheism (2 of 7) - YouTube

I mean, no one in Washington State is going to impose their religion on anyone. We are a liberal state with gay marriage and legalized cannabis, legal abortions and the whole nine yards. Why be a crazy anti-theist here?

I think it's because so many people have crazy religious families that they escape and they come to Seattle and just can't let go of how bad it was being raised by strict fundamentalists (hence the hatred of Christianity in particular, but not really hatred of Buddhism or Wicca or what have you)

As Einstein once said:
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth"

[RJ8089]

Race shouldn't matter period. It's ridiculous!!! Secondly, Seattle is diverse in "certain areas".

Seattle's drivers are not bad compared to Los Angeles, Washington D.C., New York/New Jersey, Chicago. So keep that in mind. I have driven in all the cities downtown and on their freeways. I have perspective unlike some of the people who comment that don't go anywhere.

The traffic is absurd because Seattle has tiny freeways that cannot support their population. They certainly can fix this but lack either the will, intelligence or creativity in doing do. The liberals just want to force everyone on public transportation. That will NEVER work! They need to widen teh current roads& freeways and build a couple new freeways.

[GatsbyGatz]

Originally Posted by skidamarink

Honestly? What I don't like about Seattle is how it is a big city but much of it feels like the suburbs to me. Outside of downtown, Capitol Hill, and a few other busy streets, I don't really feel like I'm in an urban area. Some people might like this, but I moved here from the suburbs in hopes of getting an "urban feel." But sometimes it feels like Seattle is just a giant suburb with all the disadvantages of a big city (high cost of living, bad traffic, homeless people). Unlike many, I actually don't like seeing houses and families everywhere. I like big, tall skyscrapers and lots of concrete. This sounds really simplistic, but I've always equated "big city living" as tons of tall buildings, business people scurrying to work in their clean pressed suits, artistic venues, active nightlife, and an overall busy vibe. But you go to neighborhoods like Wallingford, Ballard, Queen Anne, or even the rest of Capitol Hill and it seems to be nothing but families in houses on quiet streets. Not as bland and cookie cutter as most suburbs, but still not that interesting.

The only places in the United States that will give you the "urban" feel that you want will be NYC and Chicago. Every other American city will be dominated by resodential neighborhoods.

For me, Sesttle had enough "city." I've stressed this many times, urbanity is enormously overrated.

[rockyinyourradio]

Originally Posted by tobester

Rains 365 days a year, traffic 24 hours a day, nobody will ever talk to you, housing is outrageously expensive, summers are horrible, crime ridden - stay away, you'll hate it!

Surely you jest! It rains about 220 days out of the year, heavy traffic about 12 hours a day, lots of people have talked to me AND were quite friendly, there are other cities in the US that are more expensive as far as housing goes .. summers?? really??? they are THE BEST in the country.. crime not near as bad as other cities, Come to Seattle, you'll love it!

[rockyinyourradio]

Originally Posted by victorianpunk

LOL! Only a Seattlite would get that old joke...

Just remember: THAT IS ONLY TO BE SAID TO CALIFORNIANS!

Okay.. I fell for that one. I brag about Seattle alot to my friends here in Oklahoma.. still would move there if I could.. about the only thing I would miss is a good thunderstorm! I'm not talking these wamby pamby milktoast thundershowers you get.. we do thunderstorms here in Oklahoma like you all do coffee in Seattle! Their loud, proud and flashy and... sometimes a little scary when the twisters whirl about.

[Ira500]

Maybe I hang with the wrong crowd, but I've never really experienced this anti religious sentiment.
But what does bother me is this uptightness Seattleites have.
I was at Seward Park a few days ago. I was walking my poodle/bichon mix, and she wanted to stick her feet in the lake. I saw the signs saying that dogs were not allowed on public beaches, so I went beyond the public beach, and found a secluded spot behind some bushes, and led the dog to the water. No sooner does she put one foot in the water, the lifeguard blows his whistle and yells into the microphone " Please take your dog out of the water."
I'm a considerate guy. If there are people around who might've be offended because of the dog, I follow the rules. In this case, nobody was around, and I wasn't bothering anybody. For me, it's not about politics. I just think Seattle has this thing where they like to make rules for other people. I'm not a smoker, but I voted against the initiative forcing smokers to be more than 25 feet away from building entrances. I always carry my bags with me, but I was against the rule banning plastic bags, and charging people for paper ones. While I do have liberal tendencies, I also am against petty rules and the need to inflict my values on others.