Challenging the notion that South Texas isn't Southern (Waco, West: live, horses)

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by Arkay66

The only part of Texas that is culturally part of the Deep South is East Texas. The rest of the state think of ourselves as just Texans.

Bingo!!! End thread (PLEASE).

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by Foamposite

I consider Oklahoma to be the South and so do most people outside of City Data

Like Texas, PART of Oklahoma is Southern, but you can't just write the the entire state off as Southern because it's not.

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by Julio July

Bingo!!! End thread (PLEASE).

But what fun is that when you can tell an people from another state what they are even though youve only been there once?

[Foamposite]

Originally Posted by Julio July

Bingo!!! End thread (PLEASE).

The South is not just the Deep South. North Carolina is very Southern while not being the Deep South.

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by Foamposite

The South is not just the Deep South. North Carolina is very Southern while not being the Deep South.

Nobody said it was. You don't have to try to school me on what is and what isn't the South. I'm originally from Tennessee, which is what we refer to as the MID-South in the part of Tennessee that I come from, but nobody will tell you that Tennessee is not a Southern state just because it is not in the DEEP South. Also, nobody will argue with you that North Carolina ISN'T Southern, while almost everybody is telling you that aside from the fraction of the state that's closest to Southern states like Arkansas and Louisiana, Texas ISN'T Southern. So that ought to tell you that Texas is its own thing and is not a "Southern state."

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by Foamposite

https://youtu.be/g9lkeoxJRxA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIaYO3BkJzw

Artists from Corpus Christi and San Antonio, respectively. Both have noticeable Southern accents and performed in Southern music genres.

Granted, these are both very old songs. But my point is that at least traditionally, there is a pretty good argument to be made for San Antonio, Corpus Christi, etc. as being part of the South. On the General US forum, people seem really opposed to the idea of South Texas being the South, because there are too many Hispanics there. It's silly though, because someone like Freddy Fender was Hispanic but very Southern culturally in my opinion, even if he was also a Tejano.

What a silly thing to base your argument on. Music is UNIVERSAL. Shania Twain is Canadian and Keith Urban is Austrailian. Does that make Canada and Austrailia part of the U.S. South, just because they sing Country music, sing in Southern accents, and have adopted Southern culture in order to promote themselves as Country singers?

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It's like the guy who was claiming that Houston was ”South Texas” based on a line in some rapper's output.

[Foamposite]

Originally Posted by Julio July

What a silly thing to base your argument on. Music is UNIVERSAL. Shania Twain is Canadian and Keith Urban is Austrailian. Does that make Canada and Austrailia part of the U.S. South, just because they sing Country music, sing in Southern accents, and have adopted Southern culture in order to promote themselves as Country singers?

They literally identified as being from the South, and had actual Southern accents

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by Foamposite

They literally identified as being from the South, and had actual Southern accents

If a person identifies as a St. Bernard and walks around barking, does that make them a dog?

:WOOF! WOOF!: LOL!!!

[NoClueWho]

OP, one thing you are too hung up on is ACCENTS. Yeah, many native Texans have Southern accents, because Texas was a transitional zone that was settled by thousands of anglo settlers from the South. But that's really what it still is today: a transitional zone between the South and the West, with a unique culture and repuation all its own. It's the biggest state in the continental U.S.; there's no way the entire state---or even the majority of it---can fit neatly into one area that's just "The South."