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I be curious what would had happened if it happened in Russia. Like what happened to Britney Garner but normally Russian law only allows less than a month imprisonment for her offense thus can be blamed that it was political between US and Russia that they keep her for nine years. Though Russia does have a lot of bad drivers that get away with impunity as well as fake crashes. Thus I heard Russian insurance companies require their policyholders have Dashcams hence the rest of the world see all those ridiculous Russian road incidents online.
Though what would happen if this lady is charged in the US? The major issue is that US is federalist and its the individual states not the federal government that determines the punishment for drunk driving or causing death by dangerous driving. Interestingly if this happened in the US Harry would also have an uphill battle due to how the US public/juries often view young males riding "crotch rockets" their slang for fast sport bikes like what Harry was riding as dangerous menaces or daredevils in the roads who gets what they deserve. And that US still hangs on to the antiquated concept from old English law of Sovereign immunity except the King had been replaced by governmental agencies in general. As if they can do no wrong.
I guess its just another example of how the government is above the law, anything can be excused if governmental powers allow it. I.e US being able to get her out of the country because of her status with US air force even though not diplomatic, but if she is average joedette she would be detained. I did remember how US was somehow able to get all of USA swimming team out of Rio in 2016 after the Locte incident. Though it was a good call as Brazil's justice and governmental system is completely a corrupt mess based on what happened in throughout the Olympics.
I heard there are incidents where innocent families were killed or seriously injured in the Baja off road race and those who caused the accidents were immediately airlifted to the US and escaped accountability as well.
I be curious how is life for this woman after she returned to the US. Is she still able to drive normally physically and physiologically? Would insurers drop her? Would this incident show up on her state driving record? Would she be able to show her face in public after being blasted on media so much.
Yes, she is still driving. There is nothing to show up on her driving record. She has been convicted of nothing.
I think you will find that any British driver would face the justice system of the country they had an accident in.
The problem with the Sacoolas case is that US authorities have helped her evade justice, after reassuring British authorities than if such an incident were to occur then any immunity would be waived.
If you have an accident that involves the loss of life whilst living overseas, you face the local justice system, and both the Dunn case and another recent case have thrown in to question immunity, extradition and jurisdiction in relation to such cases.
It also should be noted that British coroners have previously warned about US military drivers on British roads, and the situation was not helped by the US withdrawing specialist road training on the arrival of personnel, and Britain has had to launch a review in to the safety of US bases as a result, and has amended legislation in relation to certain bases.
It also should be noted that there is a vast difference in relation to driving tests in Britain and many parts of the US, and British drivers in Europe have to take with them specific safety items to be able to drive on roads in France and elsewhere in Europe, whilst millions of Britons drive perfectly safely in Europe.
Britain has the safest roads after Sweden, and British drivers sit both written exams and practical exams, and you can take further courses in relation to driving overseas.
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Oh brother. But please, don't discuss the case anymore, for whatever reason.
The Crown Prosecution Service warn people not to discuss active cases on-line, which is deemed a public realm, and this case is now active.
The law is different in England & Wales, and discussing the innocence or guilt on line or case facts can result in Contempt of Court and two years in prison.
It's now as Sub judice, and falls under Section 2 of the Act of the Contempt of Court Act 1981.
Britain has the safest roads after Sweden, and British drivers sit both written exams and practical exams, and you can take further courses in relation to driving overseas.
Your link is using incomplete data. Norway, Switzerland, and Sweden all have considerable lower traffic fatalities than the UK. 2.0, 2.2, 2.2 vs 2.9 per 100,000 population. Plus some other random countries in and outside of Europe have safer roads. Finland is also safer than the UK in some categories.
The Crown Prosecution Service warn people not to discuss active cases on-line, which is deemed a public realm, and this case is now active.
The law is different in England & Wales, and discussing the innocence or guilt on line or case facts can result in Contempt of Court and two years in prison.
It's now as Sub judice, and falls under Section 2 of the Act of the Contempt of Court Act 1981.
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Your link is using incomplete data. Norway, Switzerland, and Sweden all have considerable lower traffic fatalities than the UK. 2.0, 2.2, 2.2 vs 2.9 per 100,000 population. Plus some other random countries in and outside of Europe have safer roads. Finland is also safer than the UK in some categories.
The United Kingdom has the second safest roads in Europe, according to figures released by the European Automobile Manufacturers Association (ACEA).
I trust the RAC far more than wiki.
The source was the World Health Organization. I believe that is a fairly well respected organization. Your link was just a silly top 10 list with incomplete data, that ignored much safer countries.
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Estimated road traffic death rate (per 100 000 population) 2019
Iceland 2.05
Norway 2.12
Switzerland 2.25
Ireland 3.13
Sweden 3.14
United Kingdom 3.21
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