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Yup.. thats pretty much all we get lately. Just a few days and back out. Nothing persistant.
If we had the setup of this Summer and Fall specifically June and November we would be frozen and snowy for weeks on end.
I'm looking for a few things for that to happen but time is running out now.
Dont get me wrong... we will see snow in the east again but if you're looking for brutal cold for days on end, forget it for now.
I'm curious, what would you consider a good winter (cold) for an area like NYC or Philly? Our avg high is 40 in Jan. The winter of 1976-77 and 1982-83 had a mean temp of 28F, well below the avg mean of 35F. A winter like that is certainly not frequent.
Jeez, this heat ain't no joke. It's hard to believe it's January when it feels more like July outside. It's ridiculous.
Hopefully my wife and I will be moving to someplace that gets cold soon. Looking at northern FL, GA or TN or maybe Alabama.
It is currently 78 degrees outside but it feels like 90. Just 400 miles or so in Tallahassee in the same state, it's 49 degrees and 60 in Tampa. Now what kind of a rip off is that??
You live at 26n what did you expect? Surely not cold!!
Aren't "cold shots" the kind of winter we normally get?
I mean here we average 23 days in the three winter months with a high temp above 50F, and 14 days with max temp 32F or lower. Seems like more warm fronts than cold fronts.
I think he was talking in relative terms, like a consistent 5F below normal versus just "cold" shots that move in and out.
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I'm curious, what would you consider a good winter (cold) for an area like NYC or Philly? Our avg high is 40 in Jan. The winter of 1976-77 and 1982-83 had a mean temp of 28F, well below the avg mean of 35F. A winter like that is certainly not frequent.
I'll answer the question. On an absolute scale or relative scale? On an absolute scale, I'd rate a winter averaging 25/10F or colder with snowfall of 100 inches or more to be a good winter. On a relative scale, perhaps a winter that averages 5F below normal and snowfall that is significantly above normal. Relative to what you usually have 5F below normal would be great. You might not have a lot of -5F winters because of the ocean moderation, but you should get the general idea.
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You live at 26n what did you expect? Surely not cold!!
Indeed, but it's still a sick joke of a winter. It also should be noted that some parts of Tibet that average 40F colder than Florida in winter are on the 26th parallel. As you know, however, that is at very high altitude, which Florida obviously doesn't have.
I'm curious, what would you consider a good winter (cold) for an area like NYC or Philly? Our avg high is 40 in Jan. The winter of 1976-77 and 1982-83 had a mean temp of 28F, well below the avg mean of 35F. A winter like that is certainly not frequent.
Just to keep things simple instead of mentioning years and numbers... a "good" cold winter would be temps ranging between 2 and 7 below normal for the daily meanat least 18 out of the 31 days in a month and at least 7 days being near normal, not above.
Thats a good winter. Harsh would obviously be more and deeper cold. Normal would be a fluctuation. Warm would be what we have been happening recently.
Take a look at Phillys data. Since December 1st there has only been 3 nights below normal. Thats actually seasonable to me not even below normal. So there really hasnt been any real below normal nights.
In fact, looking at the F6 data there has only been 3 mean temps below normal in the last 39 days. National Weather Service Climate
Just to keep things simple instead of mentioning years and numbers... a "good" cold winter would be temps ranging between 2 and 7 below normal for the daily meanat least 18 out of the 31 days in a month and at least 7 days being near normal, not above.
Thats a good winter. Harsh would obviously be more and deeper cold. Normal would be a fluctuation. Warm would be what we have been happening recently.
Take a look at Phillys data. Since December 1st there has only been 3 nights below normal. Thats actually seasonable to me not even below normal. So there really hasnt been any real below normal nights.
In fact, looking at the F6 data there has only been 3 mean temps below normal in the last 39 days. National Weather Service Climate
Yup, November was in the Top 10 coolest around the Northeast locations (I didnt check south of NJ). That was the last time we saw a sustained trough in the NorthEast. But November is part of fall so it didnt count for this winter. If we had those results for Dec/Jan/Feb that would be a good cold winter. Hope you're enjoying the warmer weather.
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