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1-15 May 1 1.85%
16-31 May 10 18.52%
1-15 June 13 24.07%
16-30 June 14 25.93%
1 July or later 16 29.63%
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:05 AM
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You were right 6 years ago when we were experiencing really bad 2 years.

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Compare Seattle weather vs London weather
We saw normal sunshine in 2013 and 2014. He wasn't really right. We haven't had a great summer compared to average since he posted that.

Since then, Seattle has seen year after year of well above average temps.

Neither place has seen normal conditions. We are still waiting for that balance.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:08 AM
 
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Yeah but I don't give a crap when we reach 90F, and I don't see this 80F threshold for Paris or Berlin? These benchmarks aren't really useful in determining what the weather will do in the long term. London should get an above avg summer this year based on statistics alone. You can't have repeated below avg seasons year after year without it flipping. Mother Nature likes balance.

Wait, they have had plenty of above average summer months all along in recent years (probably more than I have). It's the sunshine that has been below.


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Old 05-23-2017, 10:10 AM
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Our temps have been average because of a couple of hot Julys in 2013 and 2014. We've also had some very poor summer months (and I noticed you left out the really bad summers in 2007 and 2008). The sun has been well below average in every month, by 50-60 hours per month.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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We saw normal sunshine in 2013 and 2014. He wasn't really right. We haven't had a great summer compared to average since he posted that.

Since then, Seattle has seen year after year of well above average temps.

Neither place has seen normal conditions. We are still waiting for that balance.
Your temperatures have always been fine. I think you are only complaining about the lack of sun in the summer.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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Our temps have been average because of a couple of hot Julys in 2013 and 2014. We've also had some very poor summer months (and I noticed you left out the really bad summers in 2007 and 2008). The sun has been well below average in every month, by 50-60 hours per month.
Looks like 11 months above normal 1 exactly normal and 9 below since 2010 in the Means and 11 above and 10 below in the maxes....
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:17 AM
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Looks like 11 months above normal 1 exactly normal and 9 below since 2010 in the Means and 11 above and 10 below in the maxes....
Yeah, and if you include 2007 and 2008, you'll add 1 month to average (Jun 07) and 5 months to below average.

The only months with average sun or more since 2007 were June 2010, July 2013, and June/July 2014. June 2008 and August 2016 came close to average, and every other month was well below, not even reaching 200 hrs.
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Old 05-23-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Yeah, and if you include 2007 and 2008, you'll add 1 month to average (Jun 07) and 5 months to below average.

The only months with average sun or more since 2007 were June 2010, July 2013, and June/July 2014. June 2008 and August 2016 came close to average, and every other month was well below, not even reaching 200 hrs.
I just went back to 2010.


Compare to us since 2010


Above average Max----Mean months:

June: 3------- 4
July: 4--------4
Aug: 6--------5 and 1 exactly average

Seems as if we had more then you...

Mean since 2010: June: 72.0F (71.0F) July:77.2F (75.8F) Aug:75.5F (74.2F)
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Regardless, these anecdotal arguments are just silly. It's your way of ignoring empirical evidence because in your mind NZ is always #1, even if compared to near identical climates it will always emerge as the clear winner in your eyes.
There aren't any anecdotal arguments -I'm just stating what many have said over the years.

There are no near identical climates (summer) to Motueka in the UK.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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We get about 15-20 days above 80F. The 14 day figure is for days above 27c.

We get about 9 days above 29, 4-5 above 30.

Is the 30 year data not available to just say exactly how many you average per year? 15 to 20 is a rather large difference. Which is it, 15 or 20?
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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We average 30 days above 80F, 10 above 86F and only 4 above 90F. London should have about half of those since we have more extremes.
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