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Wellington's warmest suburbs are as warm as London, and there are warmer areas within the greater area.
Stats are useful, but I think a consistent opinion is useful as well -Wellington is warmer in summer than Motueka, but I won't move be moving there for better summers.
Look at it from our point of view. Everytime NZ comes up or in any climate comparison, you tend to use anecdotes that so and so American or Brit says that our weather is xxx or yyyy better, etc.
We all know you feel blessed with your climate and eat all kinds of exotic fruit out of hand all year round blah blah, so the tendency is to be skeptical you would ever let us know when someone said something negative about your climate. You always tell us the things said that bolster your opinion never anything contrary.
Wellington's warmest suburbs are as warm as London, and there are warmer areas within the greater area.
Stats are useful, but I think a consistent opinion is useful as well -Wellington is warmer in summer than Motueka, but I won't move be moving there for better summers.
So you're saying that there's a 3C difference in the highs between the official data and areas of the inner city It has to be noted that London itself doesn't have a station right in the centre of the city, it works both ways.
Besides even if you got the average highs to match, which seems quite a tall order, a record high of just 30C? Even Londoners would be disappointed by Wellington's heatwaves.
He makes a valid point. Anyone could claim that most people they've met prefer one climate to another. All it amounts to is people taking your word at face value. I'm not suggesting that you're a liar, it's just not an effective way of comparing climates in a forum. This is why we primarily use data to compare climates, as Tom has already said.
2nd July 2016 by mean temp was the coldest day of the month.
20.6c / 10.5c
Only 4 days had colder highs, and only 1 night had a colder low.
Exactly, 20.6C is chilly even to them, because it is below their norm.
Well why wouldn't I wear a jacket visiting London when the avg high there in July is around 7.5C lower than my avg high? That is quite a bigger diff than 23.5C vs 20.6C, and they were wearing jackets in 20.6C.
Wellington has about the same summer average max as Manchester from stats I saw. Summer is about 10% sunnier than London but I cannot imagine anyone finding the summers better than London with those temps.
If I could choose between Wellington/London the latter would win with flying colors. Wellington vs. Manchester and I'd choose Wellington. The record of 30 does sound very low though - Manchester has reached 35/95.
So you're saying that there's a 3C difference in the highs between the official data and areas of the inner city It has to be noted that London itself doesn't have a station right in the centre of the city, it works both ways.
Besides even if you got the average highs to match, which seems quite a tall order, a record high of just 30C? Even Londoners would be disappointed by Wellington's heatwaves.
Warmest Wellington suburbs have 23C+ maximums, highest in the urban authority 24.4C.
Londoners would be disappointed by Motueka's heatwaves, as we don't have them -doesn't stop them comparing a Motueka summer favourably though.
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Originally Posted by tom77falcons
Look at it from our point of view. Everytime NZ comes up or in any climate comparison, you tend to use anecdotes that so and so American or Brit says that our weather is xxx or yyyy better, etc.
We all know you feel blessed with your climate and eat all kinds of exotic fruit out of hand all year round blah blah, so the tendency is to be skeptical you would ever let us know when someone said something negative about your climate. You always tell us the things said that bolster your opinion never anything contrary.
Poor comprehension? My points regarding Americans isn't a better/worse one, but simply that the notion ofno summer, or springlike summers, is not one that arises when discussing summer here.
Brits do say the climate (and summers) are better, and overwhelmingly so.
Go to daily observations/seasonal discussions if you want negative accounts of weather from me, but in general, I don't feel there are too many negatives about the climate here -it's generally pretty pleasant most of the time imo.
Both -the year in general, and the summer. One of the things that standout is swimming . Temperatures should be similar as water temperatures are only a little warmer in summer here, yet people repeatedly say they England just isn't comparable -what is normal here, would be exceptional here.
If hundreds of people had said the climate there was similar to Sydney, perhaps you would think differently. That's unlikely to happen though, as it's a minority view -not so with British immigrants here.
A lot of the British are quirky though with weather and the like - they will shut the curtains when it is 30c here . They hate to praise the British climate -it's just not done .
Most Brits hate anything British - British cars - restaraunts - towns and cities -beaches -jobs- -you name it ..the UK sucks for just about everyone . In fact i am struggling to think of anyone who likes the UK .... they all seem to hate it !
- the English hate good English weather - in their minds it does not exist . They convince themselves it is bad the whole time . It's a guilt thing - you are not supposed to enjoy the UK weather . I was outside thsi afternoon sunbathing - very nice it was - but i bet i was the only Brit ,everyone else was possibly at work or indoors with the heating on and dressed in overcoats . . I have heard people say that 25c is even cold because in Cyrprus it will be 36 in summer - that is the mentality .
But it's the same 25 as anywhere else . But most folk won't have it ...they will argue with you until you back down .
Warmest Wellington suburbs have 23.5C maximums, highest in the urban authority 24.4C.
Londoners would be disappointed by Motueka's heatwaves, as we don't have
them
Poor comprehension? My points regarding Americans isn't a better/worse one, but simply that the notion ofno summer, or springlike summers, is not one that arises when discussing summer here.
Brits do say the climate (and summers) are better, and overwhelmingly so.
Go to daily observations/seasonal discussions if you want negative accounts of weather from me, but in general, I don't feel there are too many negatives about the climate here -it's generally pretty pleasant most of the time imo.
I have a few friends from the UK and one from Australia (currently living in the UK). We all keep in touch on FB, etc. I can't say I've ever heard them say anything about NZ as far as having better weather. Australia on the other hand yes constantly.
I have a few friends from the UK and one from Australia (currently living in the UK). We all keep in touch on FB, etc. I can't say I've ever heard them say anything about NZ as far as having better weather. Australia on the other hand yes constantly.
yes Tom - i am getting the same sounds .
Always Australia - wonderful climate -but NZ ?? meh
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. They convince themselves it is bad the whole time . It's a guilt thing - you are not supposed to enjoy the UK weather . I was outside thsi afternoon sunbathing - very nice it was - but i bet i was the only Brit ,everyone else was possibly at work or indoors with the heating on and dressed in overcoats . . I have heard people say that 25c is even cold because in Cyrprus it will be 36 in summer - that is the mentality . 
