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Old 11-13-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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Niño 3.4 reached moderate territory, with -1.1ºC anomaly (Nov 8th 2017). The coolest since Feb 01st 2012 and by far, coolest than last year’s Niña.


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/wksst8110.for

 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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We are stuck with it for months.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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We are stuck with it for months.
I think you guys could be normal or below for a couple weeks in Dec. Looks like a ridge west/trough east pattern to begin Dec.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 07:55 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I think you guys could be normal or below for a couple weeks in Dec. Looks like a ridge west/trough east pattern to begin Dec.
That's very typical of Niñas; and then the pattern flips somewhere in late December (1988-9 for example) to late January to early February (1970-1 and 2010-1 for example). Or it goes back and forth through the winter with ridging east predominating with a few major interruptions of cold and snow (1973-4 for example). Very rarely are Niñas wire to wire cold.
 
Old 11-21-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, BC
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That's very typical of Niñas; and then the pattern flips somewhere in late December (1988-9 for example) to late January to early February (1970-1 and 2010-1 for example). Or it goes back and forth through the winter with ridging east predominating with a few major interruptions of cold and snow (1973-4 for example). Very rarely are Niñas wire to wire cold.
Yeah, I'm thinking a cold Jan for the west but probably another flip by Feb as the core of the cold shifts east (similar to Dec?).
 
Old 11-22-2017, 04:08 AM
 
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I think you guys could be normal or below for a couple weeks in Dec. Looks like a ridge west/trough east pattern to begin Dec.
Not a chance lance. Would love to see you be right and be 8 weeks below normal. But with this flat dead locked upper level pattern i just don't see anything but super dry and warm till next june.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 04:10 AM
 
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That's very typical of Niñas; and then the pattern flips somewhere in late December (1988-9 for example) to late January to early February (1970-1 and 2010-1 for example). Or it goes back and forth through the winter with ridging east predominating with a few major interruptions of cold and snow (1973-4 for example). Very rarely are Niñas wire to wire cold.
I remember Dec of 1989 was super cold with our last super freeze, and then BOOM Jan thru March of 1990 was super warm and non active for my area.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I remember Dec of 1989 was super cold with our last super freeze, and then BOOM Jan thru March of 1990 was super warm and non active for my area.
My memory too. But there was one record low in late February 1990. Then 80's in March.
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