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My son was in NZ at the end of June 2015... fair bit of dormancy that week....
Just to let you know NZs latitude is 35 -47 south with Mnt ranges so a big range in climate zones here.
Aspen Colorado in Winter is not the same as Los Angeles in Winter
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Just to let you know NZs latitude is 35 -47 south with Mnt ranges so a big range in climate zones here.
Aspen Colorado in Winter is not the same as Los Angeles in Winter
Well the fact that most of NZ is classified as oceanic confuses people. Salt Lake City in Utah is classified Csa Hot-summer Mediterranean and its obviously not the same at all as Los Angeles. Classification describes broader climate not the local climate itself.
Depends on where you are in Auckland to how many deciduous trees you see. Some streets are lined with flowering cherry and some parks have a lot of the exotic deciduous plantings.
Sub tropical Jacaranda is the only deciduous tree in my garden. Jacaranda is also popular in Brisbane. The leaf drop on my Jacaranda is very slow through Winter while in Brisbane there may not be a full leaf drop? I should add we have not had a frost at my place in 3 years.
Brisbane probably has more poinciana trees than jacarandas. Either way, they will both keep their leaves over winter provided there is sufficient rain. In a dry winter they may shed more, especially the poincianas. Both will lose their leaves in spring before blooming so October and November is probably the most "bare" time of year in SEQ.
Not surprised to hear people in the US Southeast complaining about dormancy: that's what gives the region its continental vibe.
What is a "continental vibe", where's the snowpack, where's the consistent sub freezing daily average temps for weeks on end?
A few deciduous trees does not make a continental climate or even near one, New Orleans being surrounded by bald cypress forests does not mean it is some kind of semi-continental place, you'd have to have averages near freezing to even be a contender for that.
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I am surprised to hear people in Central Florida doing so however. Brisbane has similar winter temperatures and I can tell you there is exactly zero dormancy there during winter.
Yes Central Florida does have a lot of sweetgum, bald cypress, and red maples, the grass can brown during some portions of the winter, like this pic from Daytona Beach, FL.
What is a "continental vibe", where's the snowpack, where's the consistent sub freezing daily average temps for weeks on end?
A few deciduous trees does not make a continental climate or even near one, New Orleans being surrounded by bald cypress forests does not mean it is some kind of semi-continental place, you'd have to have averages near freezing to even be a contender for that.
Yes Central Florida does have a lot of sweetgum, bald cypress, and red maples, the grass can brown during some portions of the winter, like this pic from Daytona Beach, FL.
Yes, that's the continental vibe right there. Obviously there's a gradient with it being more-or-less ubiquitous in Virginia and becoming less and less as you go south.
I'm just surprised that there is still a hint of it even in Central Florida. One would expect it to be completely gone by then given the average temperatures.
Not surprised to hear people in the US Southeast complaining about dormancy: that's what gives the region its continental vibe.
I am surprised to hear people in Central Florida doing so however. Brisbane has similar winter temperatures and I can tell you there is exactly zero dormancy there during winter.
I'll be in NZ this June so will be able to report first-hand on the dormancy situation. Last time I was there it was also June (late June to be precise) and, whilst there was more dormancy than Brisbane, it certainly wasn't the dominant characteristic of the environment.
No one complains of dormancy in US southeast. Dormancy is not all continental bruh
Brisbane probably has more poinciana trees than jacarandas. Either way, they will both keep their leaves over winter provided there is sufficient rain. In a dry winter they may shed more, especially the poincianas. Both will lose their leaves in spring before blooming so October and November is probably the most "bare" time of year in SEQ.
You are scaring me!!! Here this winter we had plenty of rain but these trees lost their leaves and it was not colder than Brisbane!!! Well blooming started in January 26 so that Dormancy was literally nothing. I don’t know it is just so mixed here you don’t know what to expect. Here in winter grass is easily green but it barely grows much.
Neither Central Florida nor Brisbane should be considered the main type of subtropical since they are literally just a few degrees short of average coldest month of actually being tropical climate.
Not surprised to hear people in the US Southeast complaining about dormancy: that's what gives the region its continental vibe.
No one was complaining about "dormancy", this is you making stuff up to appease your climate/ecology-based jealousy of the warmer country to your south.
Even where western, particularly montane, North Carolina blends with more northern temperate forest canopy, it's dense with plant growth and subtropical understory flora, fauna, and other characteristics. I've explained this, but you've ignored it because you're butthurt that Canada doesn't have this.
No place with forests that look like "this" has a "continental vibe":
(Bald Head Island Services)
I don't care what introduced oceanic-subtropical species parts of New Zealand can grow
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I am surprised to hear people in Central Florida doing so however. Brisbane has similar winter temperatures and I can tell you there is exactly zero dormancy there during winter.
Googling "deciduous trees native to Queensland" immediately dispels that assertion. Winter dormancy is not particularly notable in Central Florida, even if there are deciduous species, the same is largely true of Brisbane.
No one was complaining about "dormancy", this is you making stuff up to appease your climate/ecology-based jealousy of the warmer country to your south.
Even where western, particularly montane, North Carolina blends with more northern temperate forest canopy, it's dense with plant growth and subtropical understory flora, fauna, and other characteristics. I've explained this, but you've ignored it because you're butthurt that Canada doesn't have this.
No place with forests that look like "this" has a "continental vibe":
(Bald Head Island Services)
I don't care what introduced oceanic-subtropical species parts of New Zealand can grow
Googling "deciduous trees native to Queensland" immediately dispels that assertion. Winter dormancy is not particularly notable in Central Florida, even if there are deciduous species, the same is largely true of Brisbane.
In Central Florida there is some dormancy but not for everything.
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, where's the snowpack, where's the consistent sub freezing daily average temps for weeks on end? 
