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Qatar 2 0.67%
United Arab Emirates 9 3.03%
Australia 10 3.37%
Canada 38 12.79%
United States of America 165 55.56%
Singapore 14 4.71%
United Kingdom 15 5.05%
Brazil 13 4.38%
Other 31 10.44%
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Old 05-22-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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The US isn't a melting pot anyway, it's more like a stew partially because of a steady stream of immigrants. However Americans of European descent are largely a melting pot after about 3 generations I think that is completely acceptable and ideal. Also Hispanic Americans marry Caucasian Americans at much higher percenantages than Asian-Americans or African-Americans I think at some point they will also be part incorporated in the melting pot.
Can you explain why certain communities inside American society haven't become part of the melting pot the USA usually prides itself of? I also don't understand the necessity of ethnic enclaves years after immigration from those countries died off, it seems like certain ethnicities seemed to isolate themselves from mainstream society, here this doesn't happen.
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Old 05-22-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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The USA (Argentina, the UK, Germany, Canada, ecc. come close), but i don't think any country should be proud of truly being a melting pot since that often means failed integration into the host culture, anyway i think that quite a countries were culturally deeply influenced by immigration and not only in the New World, for example nowadays Tikka Masala is one of the most representative British dishes. It must be said that these influences were often just soon absorbed into the mainstream culture.
Some countries don't have a host culture. Some countries have multiple different cultures that are just as legitimate as each other so there's no "mainstream" culture to be absorbed into.
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Old 05-22-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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Some countries don't have a host culture. Some countries have multiple different cultures that are just as legitimate as each other so there's no "mainstream" culture to be absorbed into.
Most countries have definitely developed their own culture even though a few often don't realize it, these are often the result of the merging of a few cultures that formed overtime a unique independant one.
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Old 05-23-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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Most countries have definitely developed their own culture even though a few often don't realize it, these are often the result of the merging of a few cultures that formed overtime a unique independant one.
Not really. Most countries are new, and have multiple different ethnic groups living within their borders, all of which have been there for centuries.

Very few countries have a "mainstream" culture.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Not really. Most countries are new, and have multiple different ethnic groups living within their borders, all of which have been there for centuries.

Very few countries have a "mainstream" culture.
Most countries have a national broadcaster which has helped to create a mainstream culture, there are a few exceptions of course but this seems the general rule
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Old 05-23-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Most Countries do have a mainstream culture. For example the US is not as multicultural as a place like Nigeria or Indonesia because the de facto language in the U.S is English and Spanish in a few Enclaves. While in these countries they had to adopt a de facto language in Papua New Guinea, Nigeria and Indonesia their are areas of these country where you can't use the national languages to conduct any business whatsoever, which is also true with the U>S except for the fact that you can literally be in a an area of nearly a hundred square miles in either of these three countries where only a couple people can speak the main language.
In Nigeria it is even worse because the Country has no majority ethnic group, so no ethnic group is really dominating as the three biggest ethnic groups only have about 20% of the population each. This also causes conflict as the majority of people can drive 50 miles down the road and can literally be in an area where English which is the go to language, or even their language, Igbo, Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba, Ijo etc. This is why Nigeria is the most Multi-Cultural country in the World because it doesn't even have an ethnic group that is 30% of the countries population and is one of the ten or so countries that have no majority ethnic group. Even the mainstream music the singers and rappers may easily finish a song using 4 languages at different times in the song and half the time Nigerians don't even understand what the singers are saying because even their own language has some serious dialects making it seem more confusing. Without the English colonization or England in itself Nigeria would probably be 20 or so countries that would stilll be by themselves more multi-cultural than the U.S
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Mount of Showing the Way
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United Kingdom
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Can you explain why certain communities inside American society haven't become part of the melting pot the USA usually prides itself of? I also don't understand the necessity of ethnic enclaves years after immigration from those countries died off, it seems like certain ethnicities seemed to isolate themselves from mainstream society, here this doesn't happen.
There are many different reason why certain communities that don't assimilate to "American society". The main difference is LOOK, primarily skin color. African-American after centuries of living in USA are not considered "melting pot" & have their own "black communities" mostly because they are visually very different from European Immigrant to USA. But taking the black community out of the equation and focusing on "true immigrant" you will see the more different a community is, the distance they will create from American culture. Even after few generation that "Asian" look won't go away just like the "black" look won't go away. Its hard to be melting pot when you look so different from mainstream & it is constant reminder of your difference.


Yes there are groups of people that don't want to becoming part of melting pot. They take great pride in their origin & they also see many bad things about American culture. They obviously see many good things about American culture hence they moved here but they don't want to be 100% in.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:00 AM
 
Location: El Sereno, Los Angeles, CA
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Papua New Guinea?

It may not have as many people from all over the world but they got over 800 languages spoken indigenous to that little half of an island there. Tons of very distinct indigenous cultures.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:56 PM
 
Location: East Bay, San Francisco Bay Area
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Canada and USA.
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