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Dude, forums are the scum at the bottom of the pond. You are lucky on a forum if the post is comprehensible.
Worry about your own grammar. Ignore the rest. Skip the topics that are incomprehensible.
The OP hasn't checked back in for 7 years.
Also, this is the writing forum, the only place on C-D in which we can discuss errors in writing. Try doing it elsewhere and you'll get completely chewed out (understandably).
Thanks for the info CA4Now. Every topic needs a fact checker.
The big change we are seeing is that people always had bad grammar. It's only with the advent of the Internet that they have been able to communicate their malformed missives and share them with the public. Before then their bad grammar was stuck to their refrigerator with a magnet.
Thanks for the info CA4Now. Every topic needs a fact checker.
The big change we are seeing is that people always had bad grammar. It's only with the advent of the Internet that they have been able to communicate their malformed missives and share them with the public. Before then their bad grammar was stuck to their refrigerator with a magnet.
I agree. I always thought EVERYONE knew how to write properly, it was expected.
I agree. I always thought EVERYONE knew how to write properly, it was expected.
I graded students' papers for over 40 years, and I never saw the types of egregious language errors that I observe in internet forums on a daily basis. Most of the papers that I graded were those of high school students, but while I was in college I helped my mother to grade the papers of her 5th graders, and even those young kids did not display the types of spelling and punctuation errors that are commonplace in online forums.
I ran into my middle school English teacher two weeks ago after not having seen her for many years. (I'm going to be 50 years old this June.) I told her, "Thank you for being such a strict teacher!" I meant it, too. I didn't like her much back when I was in school, but I surely can appreciate how much she taught me.
I wonder if there has been some change in the quality of the students, the quality of the teachers, the quality of schools, or all of the above.
I was appalled years ago about some sort of "new math." I can't see any reason to not teach math the same as I learned it. I got my BSEE degree so I guess it worked. I wonder now, do they let students use calculators in math classes? I presume that would be on their cellphones since I suspect that calculators that don't do anything else are probably obsolete.
And what's this with not teaching cursive writing? How are you going to sign a contract? With a bit X?
I guess fingerprints and biometrics are taking the place of the scrawled we've had for centuries.
Sometimes I wonder what's the use. Most of those kids who don't go to college are headed for dead-end jobs where they can learn everything they need to know on their first day on the job.
They can get direct deposit and get their cash at ATMs. If they don't have Apple pay or one of the other electronic payment methods in their cell, I get by just fine signing my credit card purchases with a wavy line. Why even bother to form a personal signature? Who is going to look at it anyway? Nobody.
I have serious concern for stupid or lazy people who don't learn anything and don't have any job skills. What use are they in the modern world except as consumer fodder?
I wonder if there has been some change in the quality of the students, the quality of the teachers, the quality of schools, or all of the above.
I was appalled years ago about some sort of "new math." I can't see any reason to not teach math the same as I learned it. I got my BSEE degree so I guess it worked. I wonder now, do they let students use calculators in math classes? I presume that would be on their cellphones since I suspect that calculators that don't do anything else are probably obsolete.
And what's this with not teaching cursive writing? How are you going to sign a contract? With a bit X?
I guess fingerprints and biometrics are taking the place of the scrawled we've had for centuries.
Sometimes I wonder what's the use. Most of those kids who don't go to college are headed for dead-end jobs where they can learn everything they need to know on their first day on the job.
They can get direct deposit and get their cash at ATMs. If they don't have Apple pay or one of the other electronic payment methods in their cell, I get by just fine signing my credit card purchases with a wavy line. Why even bother to form a personal signature? Who is going to look at it anyway? Nobody.
I have serious concern for stupid or lazy people who don't learn anything and don't have any job skills. What use are they in the modern world except as consumer fodder?
I wonder if there has been some change in the quality of the students, the quality of the teachers, the quality of schools, or all of the above.
I remember when--in my state, anyway--public school standards dictated that creative writing did not necessarily have to include correct punctuation, verb tense, spelling, etc. The students were told to get their thoughts down, and that was what mattered. My oldest was learning to write then...teachers did not correct their work. Later those kids hit early middle school and all that phonetic writing was impossible to read. Many of them never learned to write clearly.
I remember when--in my state, anyway--public school standards dictated that creative writing did not necessarily have to include correct punctuation, verb tense, spelling, etc. The students were told to get their thoughts down, and that was what mattered. My oldest was learning to write then...teachers did not correct their work. Later those kids hit early middle school and all that phonetic writing was impossible to read. Many of them never learned to write clearly.
That is opposite to what I was taught. I was taught that everything matters: spelling, grammar, punctuation, organization of thoughts.
We learned good writing, not the dreck they teach now.
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