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Communists (I have no quarrel with Social Democrats, and Scandinavia is a huge success as is the Netherlands) are good at excuses. Cuba failed because of the embargo, yet the USA is an evil rapacious nation which exploits. They get tied up on their own knots.
Unless it's stateless, classless and holds all capital assets in common it's not communism as per the definition of communism just like North Koreas isn't a Democratic People's Republic.
No he wasn't both socialism and communism were ideologies before Marx's time he was merely responsible for the most popular manifesto for communism as well as the most popular strain of "communism". But it is true that most of these countries aren't actually socialist.
There was the concept, not the ideology properlys as developed by Engels and Marx.
If it doesn't fit the definition of socialism it doesn't fit the definition of socialism.
Haudenosaunee thrived in an essentially socialist system IIRC, got conquered in the end but that has a lot to do with smallpox like most indigenous nations.
Right, but what I'm saying is that the only regimes to fit the definition ... failed.
I don't understand how these socialists hold on to the ideologies. It doesn't work... It's like people forget history.
There was the concept, not the ideology properlys as developed by Engels and Marx.
Um no the ideologies were around before Engels and Marx. Proudhon was writing about socialism when Marx was still minor leagues so to speak, there was also Mikhail Bakuni, Robert Owen, Henri de Saint Simon, Charles Fourier, etc. These are the people Marx dismissed as "utopian" socialists while his socialism was "scientific", Marx and Engels merely popularized the ideas, they're not the be all end all to socialism or communism and never had been.
This guy is dumber than a box of Borax, or Borat. Socialism only works until you can't take anyone elses money. It took a Margaret Thacher to get Great Britian back on track, otherwise they would be the Cuba of today in Europe.
since Thatcher there's more poverty in the UK than in France, Belgium, Denmark, etc. The UK used to have among the highest living standards and best working conditions of Europe, that was before Thatcher...
No wonder people screamed "the ***** is dead" when she died last year...
since Thatcher there's more poverty in the UK than in France, Belgium, Denmark, etc. The UK used to have among the highest living standards and best working conditions of Europe, that was before Thatcher...
No wonder people screamed "the ***** is dead" when she died last year...
I used to live in the UK before Thatcher came in. The joke was "will the last person leaving please turn off the light". The UK in the 70s was a hopelessly demoralized country plagued with strikes and an increasingly low morale. Indeed the vulgarity of the punk rockers pretty much describes the mood of the country then. The British middle class were fleeing that nation in droves, many headed to Australia, Canada, the USA, or other parts of the EU.
Thatcher was a curse but she broke the back of the "Old School Tie" syndrome. The notion that every one must stay in their class and not aspire to do better. The best days were under Tony Blair, before he fell in love with George Bush that is.
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