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Old 02-28-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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One of the issues that the Philippines face is its incredible population growth with it currently being the 73rd largest in land, but the 43rd largest in population with a massive population nearing 100 million. Despite having a good climate for the growing of rice and advances in creating high yield strains, the Philippines is the world's largest importer of rice.

Much of it has to do with the massive role Catholicism has in Filipino life with the most recent example of this being the massive opposition to the reproductive health act passed in 2012. The Catholic Church of the Philippines made a large effort in an attempt to prevent this act from passing with notable quotes from some church figures such as one bishop stating that overpopulation is actually an advantage for the Philippines. Still other issues with the Catholic Church include its importance in supporting/propping up political candidates with endorsements by the church holding fairly massive sway. The Church is also a economic heavyweight in the Philippines with the amount of property it owns as well as its holding of shares in large Filipino companies much of these funds built off the devoted masses who donate but seem to be getting immaterial things in return.

In a rough analogy, this seems to be similar to parts of what Quebec faced in the 60s and 70s with their heavily Catholic society and the preeminent role the church played in their lives. So in its current state, how likely is the Philippines to have some kind of quiet revolution that would loosen the hold of the Church on society? How and when do you think this would or could play out?
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:20 PM
 
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The Phillippines is not the only densely populated nation in Asia. Don't blame the Church for its problems.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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The Phillippines is not the only densely populated nation in Asia. Don't blame the Church for its problems.
I'd be fine with opening it up to having a heavily religious/superstitious population in general and not the Catholic Church specifically but that wouldn't make much sense in the context of this forum and this topic.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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The Phillippines is not the only densely populated nation in Asia. Don't blame the Church for its problems.
Well the church forbids birth control. I blame it partially for over population.
The church has been fighting the reproductive health bill.
Google it
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, India, and Bangladesh are all more densely populated than the Philippines. I think the Philippines get a bad wrap because its growth rate is so high. I definitely think it's going to slow down. It's already been slowing down for awhile now. I dont think the population will ever get passed 150 million

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I'd be fine with opening it up to having a heavily religious/superstitious population in general and not the Catholic Church specifically but that wouldn't make much sense in the context of this forum and this topic.
I think the folk Catholic element will always be there, even if and when the people get fed up with the RCC. Another segment of the population will turn to various Protestant denominations. I dont think the Philippines will ever be as secular as Quebec, not in our lifetimes at least.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:43 AM
 
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What he's saying is that the church holds too much power in the society of the Philippines. There is nothing wrong with that comment at all, he's not insulting it.

Churches shouldn't be able to forbid anything, in my opinion.
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Old 03-01-2013, 06:40 AM
 
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List of countries by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Philippines is 12th in population, not 43rd.

I agree the Church is only part of the story. I think growth rates are finally slowing in Latin America, Phils will probably follow suit. Muslim nations are more of a worry frankly, like Bangladesh.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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Churches shouldn't be able to forbid anything, in my opinion.

Churches should not only be able to preach about right and wrong, they have a duty to do so!

As far as dense populations go, do you think Singapore and Hong Kong have lots of open spaces for growing all their rice?
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:25 PM
 
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Churches should not only be able to preach about right and wrong, they have a duty to do so!

As far as dense populations go, do you think Singapore and Hong Kong have lots of open spaces for growing all their rice?
Yes! I agree!

I said that they don't have a right to forbid it, as in make laws against it.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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I am a catholic but i am PRO Reproductive Bill. I don't blame church regarding the over population because it's US who are to blame. We have a WILL to think of what is right and what is wrong. for me on my own opinion if I know that I couldn't afford to raise a child why should I have more children. This is the problem with people who are into poverty and they don't have job. They multiply and do not even think about it.

That's why lol we have all brains to use and think.
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