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Old 03-03-2019, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Murrica
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ZZZZZZZzzzzzz……… What a boring race.
Agree, for the most part.

It would have been interesting to see what Brad would have done if it hadn't been his teammate in the lead.
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Old 03-04-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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ZZZZZZZzzzzzz……… What a boring race.
I switched over this year from DISH to YouTube TV to save money, plus on YTTV I have FS1 and NBCSN in my package for no extra costs. I was excited to be able now to watch a full season of NASCAR, not just the ones on FOX or NBC.

After trying to watch Las Vegas, looks like I wasn't missing anything. What a snoozefest as you said.

But I should say, that I've always been a HMS/Chevy guy and it looks like 2019 is going to be a continuation of the horrible 2018 year for them. Ford and Toyota are dominating again.

And seriously, I have been saying this just about every race since 2017...what's up with Johnson? Is the Camaro the problem? New handling package? New crew chief? For a normal driver, I would say all of those combinations could cause issues, but we are talking about the 7-time Champ here. He's seriously floundering. I don't know if we will see a win this year by the way they have started out. There are certainly no indications unless he can win on rain delay or something.
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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I switched over this year from DISH to YouTube TV to save money, plus on YTTV I have FS1 and NBCSN in my package for no extra costs. I was excited to be able now to watch a full season of NASCAR, not just the ones on FOX or NBC.

After trying to watch Las Vegas, looks like I wasn't missing anything. What a snoozefest as you said.

But I should say, that I've always been a HMS/Chevy guy and it looks like 2019 is going to be a continuation of the horrible 2018 year for them. Ford and Toyota are dominating again.

And seriously, I have been saying this just about every race since 2017...what's up with Johnson? Is the Camaro the problem? New handling package? New crew chief? For a normal driver, I would say all of those combinations could cause issues, but we are talking about the 7-time Champ here. He's seriously floundering. I don't know if we will see a win this year by the way they have started out. There are certainly no indications unless he can win on rain delay or something.

i am a bit surprised the fords are doing so well so early in the season given the new body style. that said, the ford teams seem to be working together to make all of them better. the toyota teams are the same way, probably thinks to gibbs. i know that rousch worked to get the ford teams to work together years ago, and that got a boost when penske came on board.


the chevy teams however for some reason seem to refuse to work together, i think in big part due to the rivalry between hendrick and RCR.



as for jimmy johnson, something does seem off with him, fatigue perhaps? a bit of burnout? everyone esle caught up to and lightly passed that team? jeff gordon faced a similar issue late in his career. he stopped winning championships when jimmy johnson won his first.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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I think JJ might be at that stage where everything in life besides racing has become more interesting. Helps he did everything he ever wanted in nascar and then some. It would be difficult to hold that racers edge I think. Though being called washed up might help get it back, if he lost it of course.
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island
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I think JJ might be at that stage where everything in life besides racing has become more interesting. Helps he did everything he ever wanted in nascar and then some. It would be difficult to hold that racers edge I think. Though being called washed up might help get it back, if he lost it of course.

I think a lot of the above and then some. Another generation of drivers entering the limelight, Jimmy has seen so many changes as far as packages, rules changes, shifting of crew chiefs, the sudden uncertaintity of sponsorship money, cars that have become so fragile and the frustration of having to learn how to drive your car each year with tire and aero packages in constant evolution to get that better racing experience for the fans.

Rubbing is not racing anymore....rubbing is wrecking or damaging the car to an extent that you only have a few minutes to fix or you are garaged.

I am sure he can bounce back, but at this stage he might have had enough!
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Gray Court, SC
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JJ is bored, (Im reluctant to say washed up.) and I suspect he will retire soon. Hendrick as a whole isnt doing that great, and hasnt really the last couple of years.
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Old 03-05-2019, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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Rubbing is not racing anymore....rubbing is wrecking or damaging the car to an extent that you only have a few minutes to fix or you are garaged.
This is what has mad racing less interesting now. My heart barely "races" anymore at the end of a race. Not like it was when say Dale Sr was on your rear bumper and wondering if he would spin you out for the win. That just doesn't happen anymore. I can barely remember any recent last minute passes for the win. The Roval comes to mind with JJ and Truex taking each other out.

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JJ is bored, (Im reluctant to say washed up.) and I suspect he will retire soon. Hendrick as a whole isnt doing that great, and hasnt really the last couple of years.
Strong rumors is that Jeff Gordon will take over HMS soon. I wonder if there would be a place for JJ in the ownership as well. HMS has tons of talent. There is just something with the new Chevy's that are just not clicking with the HMS teams. Maybe its time to join the Fords?
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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Strong rumors is that Jeff Gordon will take over HMS soon. I wonder if there would be a place for JJ in the ownership as well. HMS has tons of talent. There is just something with the new Chevy's that are just not clicking with the HMS teams. Maybe its time to join the Fords?
JGR is by far the organization that has brought up the most talent in the past 10 years or so.

Look at the talent that is 'homegrown' to HMS.. Brian Vickers and Chase Elliott. that's about it. William Byron, perhaps.. He came up through Kyle Busch Motorsports, technically, but I could give this one.

Kyle Busch started at Roush, Gordon with Bill Davis, Johnson with Herzog..

Gibbs.. Denny and Erik Jones, Aric Almirola, Joey Logano, Darrell Wallace, Jr, and about 5 other drivers who are with various teams right now such as Matt Tifft.

Hendrick's driver development program leaves alot to be desired.
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Murrica
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HMS seems to raid other teams for drivers at the cup level.

I still can't fathom why HMS is doing so badly though. They are the lead team for Chevy and I can't imagine Chevy is happy with how they are running.

JJ has definitely lost something. There are a lot of possibilities, but maybe it's just the new cars don't work so well on the edge like the older ones did.
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Old 03-05-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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I switched over this year from DISH to YouTube TV to save money, plus on YTTV I have FS1 and NBCSN in my package for no extra costs. I was excited to be able now to watch a full season of NASCAR, not just the ones on FOX or NBC.



Once football season rolls around.. Get you a GPS Spoofer app.. It's amazing how I wind up in the suburbs of DC every Sunday during football season..
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