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Old 09-17-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Yes that's what corporations want you to believe. You ever wonder why Walmart goes nuts when they hear Union being passed around?
It's because unions are a PITA to deal with. They make it almost impossible to get rid of bad employees. They also make it difficult to retain the best employees because the compensation that can be offered is limited by wage scales.They foster a culture of distrust toward management regardless of whether or not there is any basis for it.

The fact of the matter is that labor laws and market competition have made unions mostly obsolete. I've worked in union shops and have never once seen a situation where the presence of the union was anything but a nuisance for the company and the workers alike.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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"Over the next two to three years, we will have migrated all of our small car production to Mexico and out of the United States,"


Ford moving all production of small cars from US to Mexico


I understand we are a very small percentage of potential buyers, but would this affect your decision in purchasing a new ford?

Oh gods.

WORST PIECE OF CRAP CAR I EVER OWNED was Ford Taurus assembled in Mexico. They must have cursed every part they pout in.
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I'm a firm believer that the unions did the auto industry more harm than good. The money some of those jobs was paying was way out of line with what most other people get for similar jobs outside the industry.

In the late 60's, a buddy of mine moved to Detroit and got a union job driving cars from the end of the assembly line to a staging area where the transporters would pick them up to take them to the various dealers. He was making $20 an hour, which was HUGE for that time. Most people on the outside were making a lot less than that at the same time. His skills were that he could drive a car ! But he had to know someone to get that job.

I also worked for a company that went from non union to union (I was office, so I was non union throughout) The entire company changed for the worse and the union began to dictate what and how we did things instead of the owners. We were not even allowed to enter our own plant without a union escort.

So, I have no use for unions.

Don
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, Florida
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You know the whole bailout thing.
Ford didn't get bailed out, only GM and Chrysler.
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Old 09-17-2016, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Wichita Falls Texas
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My decision to stop buying new Ford's ( or any car for that matter) stopped when the prices outstripped my income level.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Many American companies want the economy to tank here for the government to do something such as give out more bail outs so they can hand CEOs and management more pay raises.

During the last recession, workers got pink slips, CEOs got big pay outs for getting bail out money from government. Even unions had to make concessions in order to get by while you see CEOs of big companies raided some of the company funds and let the company to rot. Of course Congress could not let big companies fail like that so they will give out billions of $$ to keep companies running and people working.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Years ago, I worked at the Ford truck plant in Virginia. Yep, about $25 an hour after you were there a few years. The station before mine, the guy would put on a few screws,then turn around and continue reading his newspaper he had on a table by the line. A few other stations, guys were playing solitaire, yep playing cards. There was a strong union in the plant. You could even wear shorts and smoke while assembling the new trucks. I would bet this stuff doesnt happen in Mexico plants.
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I'm a big fan of German engineering. #MERCEDESBMW4LIFE! #NEVERFORD
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Old 09-17-2016, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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I wouldnt care if they moved production to Mars. If I wanted one Id buy one still.
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Old 09-17-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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Years ago, I worked at the Ford truck plant in Virginia. Yep, about $25 an hour after you were there a few years. The station before mine, the guy would put on a few screws,then turn around and continue reading his newspaper he had on a table by the line. A few other stations, guys were playing solitaire, yep playing cards. There was a strong union in the plant. You could even wear shorts and smoke while assembling the new trucks. I would bet this stuff doesnt happen in Mexico plants.
I'd have no problem with the $25 if the workers were generally busy all day. Doesn't need to be super-high pressure sweatshop conditions, but just generally productive - "an honest day's work."
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