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Old 03-19-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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There's NO WAY that MH370 could have made it to Pakistan without being detected by the Indians.
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Old 03-19-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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Political statements are only worth something if everyone knows you made a statement.
As I stated previously, it seems to me the goal here was most likely Political Protest combined w/ Suicide. And I think what's confounding people is that so many actions were seemingly done intentionally & maliciously, but so far that has not led to any "logical" conclusion which makes sense.

But if Political Protest was the goal in this situation, that doesn't necessarily mean that this Plan was particularly well thought out. It seems more like an impulsive, last-minute Plan which originated in the midst of a distraught/suicidal state. And maybe there were several different plans at the beginning, some which might have made more sense as a political statement-- maybe an original plan to crash into the Malaysian peninsula in a populated area, even into a government center? But for some reason, that plan was changed, maybe even at the last minute?

Perhaps both pilots were in on it at some point, but an argument/fight occured in the cockpit & the plan then changed to crashing into the ocean, only killing those on the plane, not anyone on the ground. However, I tend to believe that just one pilot was in on it, the Captain.... but then isn't it strange that it was the co-pilot who said the calm "Alright, goodnight" supposedly AFTER the flight plan was changed? Does that mean he was definitely in on it? Or maybe the Captain just gave him some justification for the change in direction...

As to a political statement only being worth something if everyone knows a statement has been made-- well, again, from what's been reported, even though the captain seemed like an intelligent, competent person, this plan could have been impulsively initiated by him in a suicidal state. And it does seem like because of this plane vanishing, all the attention placed on Malaysia due to this is currently highlighting problems within their government & nation for all the world to see-- maybe that was anticipated by the Captain & was enough for him?

Or maybe this guy thought (naively) that all the negative attention afterwards on the nation of Malaysia might lead directly to outrage & changes/improvements there? That might make sense to someone in a distraught/suicidal state, even if it doesn't make sense to the rest of us. Certainly there have been past examples of persons committing crimes, even murder, in the name of political protest whose plans didn't seem "logical" to most of us. (I'm just trying to present an explanation for what might have been the motivation in this situation & why it seems like there were intentional, deliberate acts committed which then didn't lead to a "logical ending".)

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Old 03-19-2014, 10:47 AM
 
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Back to the report mentioned in #1284:

If the Maldives residents reports and descriptions of the plane are true, then the theory of electrical fire and pilot trying to land in Langawi airport could be ruled out.

(Question: If it's not fire but other mechanical failure, and if all had been incapacitated by then, would autopilot have flied the plane that low for that long?)
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Old 03-19-2014, 10:53 AM
 
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The same "BS" as you put it was also on CNN:

Not true. I think you can tell the difference between

"It's within the realm of possibility that it's in Pakistan" (CNN)

vs.

"We KNOW where the PLANE is, WE are shaking down Pakistan as we speak to fork it up and they have one to two days or there's going to be mayhem!!" (Fox)

The first is speculation, the later is just a Hollywood movie plot presented as news. I have a strong distaste for this type of tabloid journalism, especially in light of the mis-information we were presented early in the investigation soon after the disaster unfolded.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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Default Where's the reward?

I believe I have heard on TV that the search for the jet has been bumped up to a criminal investigation?

Has any one offered a cash reward for "information leading to, .... etc?"

Would criminal investigators withhold facts from the public? Of course. They do it every day. It is the only way to verify that new information they receive is true.

Odd occurrence, don't you think? There is a lot of "negative information" here.

A suicide without a note.

A hi jacking without a political statement or "credit" taken.

A failure of a competent pilot and co-pilot to follow emergency flight procedures.

A silent cockpit for many hours.

An accident without a credible explanation of how a sequential break down of the jet's communication and avionic systems built in triplicate redundancy could occur.

A ghost jet that flew for many hours on auto pilot with everyone on-board killed because of accidental damage to its communication and avionic systems that fortunately stopped and didn't effect the jet's structural integrity or any other system.

Good short article

3 pieces of evidence point to jet's takeover | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

A take over of a 777 without knowing how it could occur.

A crash without a crash site or remnants of the jet, its fuel or passengers out of sight of all humanity.

A commercial airliner "gone missing."

You couldn't make this up.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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Malaysian Airlines pilot deleted data from his home flight simulator one month before taking control of missing MH370 as it's revealed he had flying software on US-controlled island Diego Garcia
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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Malaysian Airlines pilot deleted data from his home flight simulator one month before taking control of missing MH370 as it's revealed he had flying software on US-controlled island Diego Garcia
Link to the report
That doesn't confirm anything. People delete emails, files, etc. all the times without sinister intentions.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:22 AM
 
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Yeah I imagine those files are quite large. They could fill up a hard drive quickly.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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A hi jacking without a political statement or "credit" taken.
What about that message that was emailed after the flight changed course, from an unnamed group tying the case to some incidents involving Uighurs in earlier weeks? Was that eventually tossed out?

The fire/mechanical problem theory didn't hold up against facts subsequently clarified by investigators. It was superseded days ago, now.

So is the latest theory a Diego Garcia destination? Or is it wide open: Africa, Arabian Peninsula, Pakistan?

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Old 03-19-2014, 11:29 AM
 
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Malaysian Airlines pilot deleted data from his home flight simulator one month before taking control of missing MH370 as it's revealed he had flying software on US-controlled island Diego Garcia
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LOL, and really, who doesn't delete information from their home computers once in a while or even often. For all we know (and of course, they aren't saying" maybe his hard drive was getting full. Maybe there was an error in the scenario so he deleted it.

I bet that plenty of people who fly and also use flight simulator software have deleted "flights" for whatever reason. Meaningless.

Notice it was a "home made" flight simulator? How many people have created something "home made" relative to their work or interests and then destroyed or deleted it in some manner?

How many programmers have deleted code that could be used to exploit computer systems? Does that mean they are guilty of hacking into computers?

There is an obvious attempt to place all responsibility on the pilot in the most negative way. For all we know, some technician swapped a battery for a new one that caught fire, the pilot knowing the plane couldn't land someplace quickly changed course before being overcome by smoke. The plane then flew on gradually lower and lower until it crashed.

That is as plausible as any of the speculation about his home made flight simulator.

As for political statements, the pilot was not an idiot. It would have been easy for him to fly to a point where it was guaranteed someone would hear and record anything he wanted to say before crashing the plane.

Of course, now they might find some mysterious computer file indicating he was going to crash the plane to make a statement, since the pilot is no longer around to dispute it.
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