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Old 03-31-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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Trump is paying attention to the experts so no worries there. He's not going to send us out there willy nilly to get the crap before there are actions taken to assist in it's prevention. I agree however at some point on a limited basis, some should be permitted back to work. Ideally if the tests were out there in force, they could have those known to have it stay home and leave those who are NOT exposed to it do what they need to do. But that's going to be a while
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Old 03-31-2020, 03:57 PM
 
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Think June at the earliest. Some indicators:

- VA just went on a stay-at-home order statewide. It is in place until June 10.
- I own rental property on the Outer Banks of NC. This 'when will it be over' question has been raging within the homeowner community there for 10 days or more. I am about to cancel all May rentals based on my own projections. (Which foresaw the NYC area breakout pretty well.)
- My own tracking has been ongoing for over a month, and projections have been ongoing for a couple of weeks. projections are based on standard, and pretty simple, epidemiological models. It is tracking a bit lower than the median of this site's projection, but it shows the same general thing.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

The total shown in the link above can vary based on treatments and the effects of stay-at-home orders, and how well WE and our neighbors follow them.

April is way too soon. This will subside in the NYC area, but is starting up the acceleration portion of the infection curve in several states and cities right now and they will take over from NYC in cases of infection and death for a while. Then this will become more sporadic outbreaks in smaller localities. IMHO, that is when small rural areas are at most risk; the general urban population will relax and want to 'get back to normal', which will continue the spread at a low rate.

But if by mid-summer, this is mostly behind us, then life will indeed go on.
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Old 03-31-2020, 04:04 PM
 
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BTW, the VA stay-at-home order allows you to:
- Go to work
- Go to the grocery store, medical facilities, pharmacies
- Orders maximal use of work-at-home, and limits some work sites that typically involve people closed in offices
- Allows you to go buy what you need to keep your household and farm running, like feed, auto-parts, home repair items.
- Identifies a lot of essential retail businesses that are there to support maintenance and operation of home and farm

It basically stops people from the non-fundamental activities of life that create contact.

So it is not draconian.

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Old 03-31-2020, 11:27 PM
 
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BTW, the VA stay-at-home order allows you to:
- Go to work
- Go to the grocery store, medical facilities, pharmacies
- Orders maximal use of work-at-home, and limits some work sites that typically involve people closed in offices
- Allows you to go buy what you need to keep your household and farm running, like feed, auto-parts, home repair items.
- Identifies a lot of essential retail businesses that are there to support maintenance and operation of home and farm

It basically stops people from the non-fundamental activities of life that create contact.

So it is not draconian.
Our stay at home order has been extended to May 3.
Simuliar to the above restrictions but dental offices, some medical not all are closed as some of these are considered essential services. Some offices like dental offices or specialists voluntarily close their offices/buildings such as dental offices and only emergency cases will be seen by appt. While some Dr. offices have discontinued face to face appts. and will conduct phone consultations or Zoom application to conduct face to face consultations.
Technology enables some of us to work from home and this kills the commute.
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Old 04-01-2020, 09:12 PM
 
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It's kind of disappointing that in the last maybe 4 or 5 days Idaho has been logging cases at the fastest clip in the country. We'll likely overtake Oregon in the next day or two and I doubt it's because we're testing more than them. They have a much stronger link to Seattle, which was affected early on and also a higher and more densely populated urban center. I suppose it could be because we're friendlier and shake hands a lot?
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Old 04-02-2020, 03:15 AM
 
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How well are the hospitals is Boise and surrounding areas keeping up with coronavirus patients? Are the hospitals there severely overcrowded? Shortages of ventilators or medical masks there?
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:00 AM
 
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How well are the hospitals is Boise and surrounding areas keeping up with coronavirus patients? Are the hospitals there severely overcrowded? Shortages of ventilators or medical masks there?
I think these links may answer your questions. Idaho Dr. Jim Torres appears to be an amazing doctor. Idaho is fortunate to have him.


https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/coronavirus/article241627176.html


https://anchor.fm/inspireexcellencepodcast/episodes/Treating-COVID-19-On-The-Front-Lines-With-Dr--Torres-In-Blaine-County-S2E22-ec4h33
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Old 04-02-2020, 11:36 PM
 
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Yeah I guess no city is prepared for the coronavirus. It’s definitely spreading fast. Stay safe strong and healthy everyone.
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Old 04-03-2020, 08:53 AM
 
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It's kind of disappointing that in the last maybe 4 or 5 days Idaho has been logging cases at the fastest clip in the country. We'll likely overtake Oregon in the next day or two and I doubt it's because we're testing more than them. They have a much stronger link to Seattle, which was affected early on and also a higher and more densely populated urban center. I suppose it could be because we're friendlier and shake hands a lot?
Idaho will be hit hard. we have a very large population of obese unhealthy folks. This population covers the very young to the very old. These folks should probably stay home for quite some time. there is no way that this virus will subside in 1 month. I estimate the obesity rate here is at least 50% or more. In my age group it is more or less 75%, 50-60 yr olds.
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Old 04-03-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Bucks County, PA
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There will always be the option to modify the rules by requiring people to "suit up," i.e. wear surgical masks and gloves before venturing out there. Of course, there is always the chance that these items are contaminated before they ever make into the public sector.
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