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Old 03-21-2020, 01:07 PM
 
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  • What is likely in store for the US in the next couple of weeks
  • The phases of the infection and how it gets transmitted
  • Why to aggressively control things now and why that works
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https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-be9337092b56
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Old 03-21-2020, 09:12 PM
 
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When you find out about testing procedures in Idaho it'll make you sick.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/...241261886.html

10 days to get results?! A machine that can do 400 tests a day sitting idle because we can't get the needed software support? Clinics telling people with symptoms to go wait in their car?

What a hodgepodge of healthcare across the US. We can do amazing things with our talent and technology but the bloat and inconsistency at an organizational level will do us in.
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Old 03-22-2020, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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When you find out about testing procedures in Idaho it'll make you sick.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/...241261886.html

10 days to get results?! A machine that can do 400 tests a day sitting idle because we can't get the needed software support? Clinics telling people with symptoms to go wait in their car?

What a hodgepodge of healthcare across the US. We can do amazing things with our talent and technology but the bloat and inconsistency at an organizational level will do us in.

I am no longer of the opinion that testing will help much, except to declare that the infected is cured. The testing kits that were used in South Korea are only 90% accurate. Think about that! If we were to test everyone LAST year when no one had the virus, we would have gotten 35 million false positives! That number vastly exceeds the number of actual infected people at present.
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Old 03-22-2020, 11:58 AM
 
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I am no longer of the opinion that testing will help much, except to declare that the infected is cured. The testing kits that were used in South Korea are only 90% accurate. Think about that! If we were to test everyone LAST year when no one had the virus, we would have gotten 35 million false positives! That number vastly exceeds the number of actual infected people at present.
You do make a good point. But it does sound like that's what allowed South Korea to tackle it as fast as they did when they exploded pretty quickly. Even the flu shot can be less than 20% effective in any given flu season. This year it's supposedly 46% effective. Regardless, the quicker you can contain the affected the better you can slow down transmission. Not necessarily keep them in a hospital bed but at least make an honest attempt at staying home. I think it's just a matter of playing the numbers. But playing the numbers in a country as large and populated as ours is so much more daunting than doing such in South Korea. Plus we're a lot more stubborn and defiant here.
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Old 03-22-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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I am no longer of the opinion that testing will help much, except to declare that the infected is cured. The testing kits that were used in South Korea are only 90% accurate. Think about that! If we were to test everyone LAST year when no one had the virus, we would have gotten 35 million false positives! That number vastly exceeds the number of actual infected people at present.
best thing is to go to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


You can look up your age group, and if you have any comorbidities, it has the percentage listed for death.

here is an example of what they have.

Age of Coronavirus Deaths
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old
21.9%
14.8%
70-79 years old
8.0%
60-69 years old
3.6%
50-59 years old
1.3%
40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old
0.2%
20-29 years old
0.2%
10-19 years old
0.2%
0-9 years old
no fatalities
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Old 03-22-2020, 01:39 PM
 
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PRE-EXISTING CONDITION
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
Cardiovascular disease
13.2%
10.5%
Diabetes
9.2%
7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease
8.0%
6.3%
Hypertension
8.4%
6.0%
Cancer
7.6%
5.6%
no pre-existing conditions
0.9%


I am at .09%.
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Old 03-22-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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A couple in front of us at Winco yesterday purchased $600 worth of groceries! Included were New York steaks. The best part... they used EBT to pay for some or most of it. What a great system we have.
In this situation they may have been buying for multiple households. I imagine a lot of people are buying for older relatives as well to keep them from having to go out to the store. Things are always what they appear to be. And this is the time for us all to be pulling together.
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Old 03-22-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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There is a great deal of obese unhealthy folks in the treasure valley. folks with multiple health issues. these folks need to stay inside and let this pass or they will be gone. risk factors are huge here. even the young here are obese. all obese folks should be required to lock down. For there own safety.
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Old 03-23-2020, 08:07 AM
 
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There is a great deal of obese unhealthy folks in the treasure valley. folks with multiple health issues. these folks need to stay inside and let this pass or they will be gone. risk factors are huge here. even the young here are obese. all obese folks should be required to lock down. For there own safety.
Lol, thus a good portion of the USA.

Here is a link to the breakdown of obesity per state. Idaho isn't worse than most other states.

https://www.americashealthrankings.o...esity/state/ID


This finding shows Idaho is the 16th most healthy state.

https://www.americashealthrankings.o...erall/state/ID

Boise is often ranked as one of the healthiest and most fit cities in the nation. Too many links to post for this one.
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:28 AM
 
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Lol, thus a good portion of the USA.

Here is a link to the breakdown of obesity per state. Idaho isn't worse than most other states.

https://www.americashealthrankings.o...esity/state/ID


This finding shows Idaho is the 16th most healthy state.

https://www.americashealthrankings.o...erall/state/ID

Boise is often ranked as one of the healthiest and most fit cities in the nation. Too many links to post for this one.
Those rankings on Boise being one of the healthiest states is pure propaganda. Go to the Boise mall and just sit there and watch people. I would put the obesity rate at least 50%. Don't believe everything you read. I blame a great deal on the medical system here. They just do not care. My Doctor here does not even measure your waist line. What a joke. The size of your waist tells a great deal.

My last Doctor as part of the check up always measured your waist. Here they do nothing. Most folks on my block here are obese, even there kids.


Every new business out here is just food places. Go down Eagle road. A new business of eatery's lined up and down the road. Drive throughs packed at all hours. In my age group of 50-60 I was say the obesity rate is 75%. We just had a 62 year old die weighing 475. You don't hear about this but I do. This happens all the time. They have to send over a special team to pick these folks up and cart them off to the coroner.
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