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Health insurance, the Human Rights tribunals...Need I go on?
Then along with Canada the rest of the world is socialist save USA that chooses not to have national healthcare?.IMO the healthcare Canadians recieve is a social program and not something that makes Canada a socialist country. We could go on and list all the social programs USA offers its citizens then label USA as a socialist country eh.
Then along with Canada the rest of the world is socialist save USA that chooses not to have national healthcare?.IMO the healthcare Canadians recieve is a social program and not something that makes Canada a socialist country. We could go on and list all the social programs USA offers its citizens then label USA as a socialist country eh.
Health insurance is a bit like car and home insurance. Everyone pays, some have more need than others. If health insurance is socialism, then every country that has car insurance is also socialist.
Health insurance, the Human Rights tribunals...Need I go on?
What a maroon to try to float those two as examples of socialism while having more forms of government assistance than any other country on the planet. With over 51% of the pop. receiving some form of government provided benefit.
Explore your Medicaid and it's recent expansion being the only reason why more of you aren't dying without healthcare today then yesterday, even though more of you have no other form of health insurance today than yesterday.
What a maroon to try to float those two as examples of socialism....
I'm having trouble with those also Bru. When was the last time your government in Ontario assigned you a physician, or denied you care because you didn't fit the parameters laid down by the government? I'd bet "never," because that's not how our system of single-payer works. For that matter, where is the "workers' ownership of the means of production," which is the classic definition of socialism, in our health care system?
As for the human rights stuff, I'm left confused. First, because I practice in this area (only one of my areas of practice, as you know), and I am left scratching my head how the constitution of Human Rights commissions and tribunals could be construed as socialist in any way. But secondly, because it is true that the federal government in Canada, and every province of Canada, and all three territories, has some sort of mechanism to resolve human rights complaints involving discrimination or denial of services on protected grounds; and in no instance have I been able, through my research and experience, to find any elements of socialism in any decision made at the tribunal level.
And, it turns out, such bodies also exist in the United States. I didn't bother to research all fifty states, but a Google search that took less than a minute found the same sort of body in JBG's jurisdiction, New York State:
If human rights commissions and tribunals are "socialist" by definition (whatever the heck that means in this context), then New York State demonstrates that it is partially socialist, simply by having a Division of Human Rights that accepts and adjudicates discrimination and denial-of-service complaints. You know, just like ours do.
What a maroon to try to float those two as examples of socialism while having more forms of government assistance than any other country on the planet. With over 51% of the pop. receiving some form of government provided benefit.
My IQ is 79 so you're not far off.
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Explore your Medicaid and it's recent expansion being the only reason why more of you aren't dying without healthcare today then yesterday, even though more of you have no other form of health insurance today than yesterday.
Needs based, not for everyone.
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And then there is this little canard waiting to bite you in the "superior constitutional guarantee" hiney:
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Here's a deal, you keep your fubarred medical system and your inferior freedoms:
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And Canada will keep the much better of both categories. Eazy peazy.
An excerpt from the Canadian Charter of Selective Rights and Arbitrarily Determined Freedoms: "1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." The bolded portions in the preamble turn the document, from a rights point of view, into the consistency of Swiss Cheese, "notwithstanding" your protestations. I adore Canada, not your Charter.
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That's a lot of socialized health care right there bubba.
