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Old 12-28-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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anybody ever notice that people that say "celebrities always die in groups of threes", do so in groups of three?
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Thank you to those who pointed out that CPR can only do so much. Everyone looks at it as some kind of miracle maker, but in reality, it can only do so much.
The sad reality is that most patients who receive CPR die. (Which, when you really stop to think about it, isn't actually so surprising: cardiopulmonary arrest is the final common step in the process of dying. Everyone who dies, from whatever cause, ends by becoming pulseless and apneic.)

The reason, of course, for the promotion of CPR and of AED use is that in some percentage of cases, if the underlying cause of the arrest can be successfully reversed, the arrest victim might be saved and go on to live a meaningful life.

A five year old drowning victim, an 25 year old jogger with Long QT Syndrome, a 55 year old with a blocked left anterior descending coronary artery, and an 85 year old with massive sepsis may all become pulseless and apneic, but those patients have very different probabilities of success in terms of both immediate recovery of cardiopulmonary function and in terms of long-term survival.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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This is so sad. I don't really believe in astrology but a lot of horrible things, mostly deaths, have happened recently. If somebody can figure out what causes all these things to go wrong, besides just co-incidence, I would like to know. Somebody said Mercury in retrograde ?? but I don't even know what that is. So sad and so unexpected this latest loss.
All living things only have a finite amount of time. Some hasten their deterioration through drugs & alcohol, which take their toll over time. Others live past an average calculated lifespan.

Prince: drug overdose
David Bowie: cancer
Muhammad Ali: long time Parkinson's Disease sufferer & prior brain trauma
George Michael: heart attack (well known history of using drugs & alcohol)
Carrie Fisher: heart attack (well known history of using drugs & alcohol)
John Glenn: 95 years old!
Gene Wilder: 80-something yrs old, had Alzheimers for years
Florence Henderson: 82 yrs old, heart failure
Fidel Castro: 90 yrs old!
Alan Thicke: 69 yrs old, heart attack

As for other 'horrible' things, many are man-made or human influenced.
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Old 12-28-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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Was sorry to hear of her death. I think she was smart and clever and honest and funny.
She was just on the Graham North show promoting her new book. She seemed fine other than her nose looked a little weird and I thought it was impacting her breathing or speech. I suppose something like that could negatively impact a heart condition if she actually had a previous condition.

Don't know why everyone is on their high horse about her drug and drink use. it was a loong time ago and I know more serious alcholics who seem to last forever than the other way around. If you think your lack of drug or drink is going to save you that's not really the way it works.
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Old 12-28-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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And the stupid snowflakes are upset with Steve Martin for tweeting that Carrie was beautiful, as well as witty. They say he's being sexist.


I can't imagine being that perpetually outraged about absolutely nothing.


Steve Martin deletes Twitter tribute to Carrie Fisher after backlash | Fox News
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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And now...

Carrie's mother, Debbie Reynolds, has died at age 84. ONE DAY after her daughter died.
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Old 12-29-2016, 01:03 AM
 
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Unhappy Very sad.....

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Old 12-29-2016, 05:50 AM
 
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I've read that all of her scenes for the next Star Wars was completed, but obviously she won't be here for the third installment in a few years.

I'm hoping not, but I have a ghoulish feeling that the producers are going to CGI her just like they did with Peter Cushing and young Princess Leia in Rogue One.

I don't understand why filmmakers just can't let it be, and cast someone else in the role. We're all grown adults, it's not a hard concept to understand that people die, and we have to move on.
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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On Tuesday, Reynolds addressed Fisher’s death on Facebook, writing: “Thank you to everyone who has embraced the gifts and talents of my beloved and amazing daughter. I am grateful for your thoughts and prayers that are now guiding her to her next stop. Love Carries Mother.” I love how she says Carries Mother and not her famous name.. lovely woman now gone

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Old 12-29-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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........I don't understand why filmmakers just can't let it be, and cast someone else in the role. We're all grown adults, it's not a hard concept to understand that people die, and we have to move on.
We-ll, considering how people are reacting, I'm not sure if people understand that people die.

The thing is that it is science fiction and a story can be written to reflect someone else playing the part. Unfortunately, I believe the current viewer wants it all up front with no imagination.

Something else I don't think a lot of people understand is that actresses do act in other movies. I have seen very little except for Star Wars (a note here about postcards, another about Blues Brothers, but that's it).

It seems when we look at a celebrity, people only focus on one thing.

Now, as things go, I have seen her interview (so perfect!) in French and last night, I dreampt I saw another one, in French, and was watching other French movies....and understanding.

I may use her interview as motivation to reactivate my French knowledge.
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