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Old 08-10-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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This is the wrong city to be in on Labor Day weekend if you fear a military/police state.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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My opinion is the huge police presence is being brought in to protect the image of the DNC & Obama and little to do with real security. Anyone not toeing the party line is out. Wear the wrong teeshirt, crack on the head. Carry a protest sign, mace to the face. They don't want anyone protesting the state of the horrible economy, nobody protesting the 2-3 undeclared wars that never end, and absolutely no protests against wall street, banksters, 1%ters (less they put away the check book)

In other words it's sterilization instead of security.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:32 PM
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Location: The CLT area
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It'd be wholly irresponsible for local government to take whimsically the matter of security in Charlotte during the course of the convention.

I'm glad (and grateful) to see that additional law enforcement officers will be present

On the other hand, to quote Karl de la Guerra, who's the Chief Operating Officer with Metro Special Police and Security:

"If it's cold outside and no one is perspiring, why is this individual perspiring?"

Hot flashes / menopause perhaps?

"If it's a relaxed environment they happen to be in and everyone is standing with their hands in their pockets, why is this one person pacing?"

Uh gee...number of reasons. Could it be that they're anxious over something - perhaps a close relative is about to give birth, or maybe someone's in the hospital. Or, I hate to say it, but is there one person who hasn't paced about when they're waiting on line, and have to use the bathroom?

You see, the presumption, unfortunately, is that EVERYONE is suspect. I feel bad for the poor schlub that gets caught up in something that's nothing more than an honest misunderstanding.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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Love members of law enforcement - happy to see them in Charlotte
Gotta agree with this.

Law and order is an important component of a civilized society. Folks better mind their p's and q's convention week!
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't understand why anyone would object. Anyone that wants to protect citizens is O.K. in my book. I too would welcome firemen as well if ever needed.
I object. Out of state police aren't up-to-date with the NC laws. They won't be. In SC private security guards have the ability to arrest someone, NC they don't. Also, NC as anywhere else, has certain tolerences toward certain crimes that other states don't have. A Ca cop may over look causal marijuna use at a private residence, whereas a SC cop may feel the need to bring in the swat team. According to the article, this wasn't a downtown only type deal, this was for all neighborhoods.

Firefighters? Bring them on.... they're useful. House burns down, are the firefighters going to stop fighting the fire because they see pot plants? Nope.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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My opinion is the huge police presence is being brought in to protect the image of the DNC & Obama and little to do with real security. Anyone not toeing the party line is out. Wear the wrong teeshirt, crack on the head. Carry a protest sign, mace to the face. They don't want anyone protesting the state of the horrible economy, nobody protesting the 2-3 undeclared wars that never end, and absolutely no protests against wall street, banksters, 1%ters (less they put away the check book)

In other words it's sterilization instead of security.
Good points. I didn't look at it like that, but you are right. Gee, just think of how all the extra security and order will enhance the image of our humble, transparent president.
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Old 08-10-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I saw that the extra police will be from out of the area, I didn't see out of state. They're also sending extra police to Gaston & Cabarrus Counties. It's a good thing. It's better to be prepared than to be caught flat-footed.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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These out of state officers will most likely be paired with CMPD units, instead of a two man CMPD unit, you will have a two man 1 CMPD 1 visiting. These out of state officers will be on tight leashes and supervised at all times by either the CMPD or Feds. There is really nothing to worry about. Do you want a CMPD officer guarding a door when he or she could be on the street or should an out of state officer guard a door freeing that local officer to patrol?
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:29 PM
 
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Well if they are here to do the job that our local cops arent doing thats great. Things like catching some of the ILLEGAL ALIENS and drivers texting .......Somehow I dont think they plan to.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:37 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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The issue is maintaining the ratio of cops:citizens for regular purposes...
when a special even (like a convention) requires so many extra bodies.

I suspect (hope?) that the out of towners will mostly be doing the convention work...
leaving the CMPD to do it's regular job without too many changes.
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