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Old 01-25-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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Well, I'm glad that Jesus was willing to go to the cross for me, for all of us. I'm sorry that He had to in order to make salvation possible, but I'm glad that He was willing to do so. Truly an attitude of grace and humility.
Absolutely agree.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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Well, I'm glad that Jesus was willing to go to the cross for me, for all of us. I'm sorry that He had to in order to make salvation possible, but I'm glad that He was willing to do so. Truly an attitude of grace and humility.

Catholicism brought the image of the cross into their religion along with the statues, icons, and graven images. Does one really believe The son of the God of Love, who taught Love would have a torture death device as the symbol for his religion? I don't.
Jesus is king of kings sitting on his throne in heaven. he can accomplish reality, the images, statues and icons can accomplish 0. They bow to the image behind the pulpit. They kiss a little piece of metal. The 32,999 branches off of her only fixed a few little things. Their translations are filled with errors. Errors of bias for false council teachings.
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Old 01-25-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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Catholicism brought the image of the cross into their religion along with the statues, icons, and graven images. Does one really believe The son of the God of Love, who taught Love would have a torture death device as the symbol for his religion? I don't.
Jesus is king of kings sitting on his throne in heaven. he can accomplish reality, the images, statues and icons can accomplish 0. They bow to the image behind the pulpit. They kiss a little piece of metal. The 32,999 branches off of her only fixed a few little things. Their translations are filled with errors. Errors of bias for false council teachings.
That's true, and still, Protestants are just another branch of Catholicism. The Pope was able to deem the commandments illegal, and he was able to change or alter any of the word of God he saw fit, and he saw fit to reject the worship system of God, and Martin Luther followed him in this, and while I admire Martin Luther, if he had just not gone into his Anti-Semitic rant near the end of his life, he would have been half cool, but then to leave such a horrendous book against the Jews is just intolerable, and the Protestant follows what is wholly Catholic in it's laws it created for itself, and in the laws of it's worship system that Protestants continue to follow, and this proves that the Protestant is just a Catholic. I have heard all sorts of Protestants speak ill of Catholic, but when you keep and follow a religion that is wholly invented and created by the church, you just prove that you are a member of the Catholic church, and so the Protestant don't have much to say to the Catholic.
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Old 01-25-2018, 06:45 PM
 
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Untrue. Jesus is fully God and fully man. And yes--we are human and we sin.
Did jesus always exists as fully god BFun?

Or did yahweh and nothing exist at some point outside of time and space?
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Old 01-25-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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Well, I'm glad that Jesus was willing to go to the cross for me, for all of us. I'm sorry that He had to in order to make salvation possible, but I'm glad that He was willing to do so. Truly an attitude of grace and humility.
Yea, what’s a bad weekend at human camp for a god?
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Old 01-25-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Because you are human, doesn't make you a sinner.
Although I know that isn't what you believe.
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Actually, it does. The stain of sin is on all human beings, as we receive the sin nature from Adam.
What about life experiences or the environment in which you were born, do they have an effect?

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Who are the humans without sin? Do they have some special characteristic?
Why are people non-violent and selfless, while a few others may be psychopaths?
Do you think it has anything to do with the brain, or the way it may be functioning?
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Old 01-26-2018, 05:29 AM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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Catholicism brought the image of the cross into their religion along with the statues, icons, and graven images. Does one really believe The son of the God of Love, who taught Love would have a torture death device as the symbol for his religion? I don't.
Jesus is king of kings sitting on his throne in heaven. he can accomplish reality, the images, statues and icons can accomplish 0. They bow to the image behind the pulpit. They kiss a little piece of metal. The 32,999 branches off of her only fixed a few little things. Their translations are filled with errors. Errors of bias for false council teachings.
I am not into all the trappings of Catholicism, but I have to say:
we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,1 Cor 1:23
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Old 01-26-2018, 07:00 AM
 
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What about life experiences or the environment in which you were born, do they have an effect?
Sin is common to all people. The way it manifests itself in some is different than others. Some are, as you say, psychopaths, others would be happy to hit the bar by 9 am and be drunk by 10:30 for the remainder of the day.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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Because you are human, doesn't make you a sinner.
Although I know that isn't what you believe.
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Actually, it does. The stain of sin is on all human beings, as we receive the sin nature from Adam.
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What about life experiences or the environment in which you were born, do they have an effect?


Why are people non-violent and selfless, while a few others may be psychopaths?
Do you think it has anything to do with the brain, or the way it may be functioning?
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Sin is common to all people. The way it manifests itself in some is different than others. Some are, as you say, psychopaths, others would be happy to hit the bar by 9 am and be drunk by 10:30 for the remainder of the day.
That would be their choice to drink or not, while others (i.e., psychopaths) may not have a choice; it might be the way they are wired. The blanket of religion with its rules and regulations is not the litmus test. However, when we know what is good and right but choose not to do it, then we have missed the mark. Being drunk in, and of itself is not a sin, anymore than dancing with your wife. Although I personally believe that people should drink in moderation to avoid harming themselves or others. And it would be wise not to drink with people who encourage "binge drinking" or those who look down on you for - not drinking - or for not "keeping up." In other words, we are responsible for our own thoughts, deeds and actions; and willfully missing the mark is still a choice. We are not automatically (or born), sinners.
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:04 AM
 
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That would be their choice to drink or not, while others (i.e., psychopaths) may not have a choice;
Actually, many alcoholics would tell you that they can't control their drinking.
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it might be the way they are wired. The blanket of religion with its rules and regulations is not the litmus test. However, when we know what is good and right but choose not to do it, then we have missed the mark. Being drunk in, and of itself is not a sin, anymore than dancing with your wife. Although I personally believe that people should drink in moderation to avoid harming themselves or others. And it would be wise not to drink with people who encourage "binge drinking" or those who look down on you for - not drinking - or for not "keeping up." In other words, we are responsible for our own thoughts, deeds and actions; and willfully missing the mark is still a choice. We are not automatically (or born), sinners.
We are commanded by Scripture to not be drunkards.

But there are a myriad of other sins. One could talk about the fornicator, the gossip, the glutton, the adulterer, the homosexual, etc..etc....whatever. Pick the sin, someone is bound to it.
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