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Actually, many alcoholics would tell you that they can't control their drinking.
We are commanded by Scripture to not be drunkards.
But there are a myriad of other sins. One could talk about the fornicator, the gossip, the glutton, the adulterer, the homosexual, etc..etc....whatever. Pick the sin, someone is bound to it.
Because someone is bound (your word) to miss the mark, does not make all human beings sinners.
You should apply those judgments to that of yourself or your own life, again, not everything is a sin.
· Sex between consenting adults is not a sin. · Talking about things or people is not necessarily gossip. · Having one drink too many, does not make you a drunkard. · Eating one more bite than you probably should have is not wrong. · Loving relationships are not against the law, nor are they sinful.
I suppose it depends on how you perceive something in your own mind.
Because someone is bound (your word) to miss the mark, does not make all human beings sinners.
You should apply those judgments to that of yourself or your own life, again, not everything is a sin.
· Sex between consenting adults is not a sin. · Talking about things or people is not necessarily gossip. · Having one drink too many, does not make you a drunkard. · Eating one more bite than you probably should have is not wrong. · Loving relationships are not against the law, nor are they sinful.
I suppose it depends on how you perceive something in your own mind.
Romans 14:14,
I know and am confident in the Lord Jesus that nothing is of itself unclean; But to him who regards anything as unclean, to him it is unclean.
Because someone is bound (your word) to miss the mark, does not make all human beings sinners.
You should apply those judgments to that of yourself or your own life, again, not everything is a sin.
· Sex between consenting adults is not a sin. · Talking about things or people is not necessarily gossip. · Having one drink too many, does not make you a drunkard. · Eating one more bite than you probably should have is not wrong. · Loving relationships are not against the law, nor are they sinful.
I suppose it depends on how you perceive something in your own mind.
No...the fact that we're all descendants of Adam means we're sinners.
And Romans 3:23 says we've all sinned and fallen short of God's glory. 3:10-11 says that there are non righteous, not one.
Well, I'm glad that Jesus was willing to go to the cross for me, for all of us. I'm sorry that He had to in order to make salvation possible, but I'm glad that He was willing to do so. Truly an attitude of grace and humility.
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Originally Posted by kjw47
Catholicism brought the image of the cross into their religion along with the statues, icons, and graven images. Does one really believe The son of the God of Love, who taught Love would have a torture death device as the symbol for his religion? I don't.
Jesus is king of kings sitting on his throne in heaven. he can accomplish reality, the images, statues and icons can accomplish 0. They bow to the image behind the pulpit. They kiss a little piece of metal. The 32,999 branches off of her only fixed a few little things. Their translations are filled with errors. Errors of bias for false council teachings.
Why don't you stop bashing the Roman Catholic church and worry about your own organization.
Actually, many alcoholics would tell you that they can't control their drinking.
We are commanded by Scripture to not be drunkards.
But there are a myriad of other sins. One could talk about the fornicator, the gossip, the glutton, the adulterer, the homosexual, etc..etc....whatever. Pick the sin, someone is bound to it.
That supports my theory that we are punished by our sins instead of for them. Speaking from experience, getting in a fight with your coffee table in the middle of the night on your way to throw up is not as fun as it sounds.
Because someone is bound (your word) to miss the mark, does not make all human beings sinners.
You should apply those judgments to that of yourself or your own life, again, not everything is a sin.
· Sex between consenting adults is not a sin. · Talking about things or people is not necessarily gossip. · Having one drink too many, does not make you a drunkard. · Eating one more bite than you probably should have is not wrong. · Loving relationships are not against the law, nor are they sinful.
I suppose it depends on how you perceive something in your own mind.
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
No...the fact that we're all descendants of Adam means we're sinners.
And Romans 3:23 says we've all sinned and fallen short of God's glory. 3:10-11 says that there are non righteous, not one.
That includes me, you, everyone.
Adam, man, mankind, the human race were created or evolved to be breathing, living souls.
And most of these living souls are capable of reasoning and learning from their experience.
We are commanded by Scripture to not be drunkards.
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Originally Posted by L8Gr8Apost8
That supports my theory that we are punished by our sins instead of for them. Speaking from experience, getting in a fight with your coffee table in the middle of the night on your way to throw up is not as fun as it sounds.
Let's just take this for an example.
WHY is there a command to not be drunkards?
Is it about attaining or keeping salvation? No.
It is about followers of Christ imitating God. It's about not behaving like unbelievers. It's about representing our heavenly Father on earth.
Adam, man, mankind, the human race were created or evolved to be breathing, living souls.
And most of these living souls are capable of reasoning and learning from their experience.
It is about followers of Christ imitating God. It's about not behaving like unbelievers. It's about representing our heavenly Father on earth.
SO one can be a drunkard, or even an alcoholic and still be saved?
All commandments are defunct under the "once saved, always saved" theology.
Your argument is that following the law immediately follows being a Christian.
It almost sounds like the works vs faith alone debate.
SO one can be a drunkard, or even an alcoholic and still be saved?
All commandments are defunct under the "once saved, always saved" theology.
Your argument is that following the law immediately follows being a Christian.
It almost sounds like the works vs faith alone debate.
Yes - although the behavior is strongly discouraged.
Also - we will be judged for our actions done on the earth, but we remain in the family of God.
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