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God is also said to be wrathful, just, holy, righteous, etc. You are emphasizing one attribute to the esclusion of the rest.
Already covered this with you earlier this morning
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Originally Posted by BaptistFundie
Except that it is NOT. God is also holy, just, righteous and wrathful. They're attributes.
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All of God's attributes flow from what God IS: love (a noun, not a descriptive adjective). If your understanding of some of the adjectives that people in the bible used to describe God/love are at war with what God IS then, if you're a thinking person, you'll want to double check your understanding or theirs.
Or simply acknowledge that you don't really believe your bible when it says that God is love.
This is totally not a snarky comment.... are you having some issues with your short term memory?
Acting like Christ got him mocked, falsely accused and executed.
Denying the truth about His teachings, or keeping silent about them in order to appease the haters only means you are either ashamed of it, or too afraid to offend people by declaring you are Christian. The truth about the cross is offensive to some, and Jesus said it would be so.
not to forget he was also scourged..
physically beaten to nearly the point of death.
Holman NT Commentary defines it as: "Set apart from ordinary use for God’s use; set apart from sin."
Jesus didn't simply "manifest it". He is Holy. He is God. Isaiah 6 shows angels proclaiming "Holy Holy Holy" about god.
You have no idea what holy is and have not explained what it IS. How can Jesus be separated from what he is, which is holy which means he is whole(complete), he is our holiness(wholeness) and when we abide in his holiness we too are complete. Yes, Jesus did manifest holiness just like he manifested all the other attributes of God. Are you have a difficult time understanding that we all manifest what we are or believe we are?. Jesus Christ was and is holy, therefore he manifested it. It is not rocket science. He was all that God is manifested in the flesh.
Yes the angels were singing holy, holy, if you listen carefully when you are abiding in the love of God, you will hear them proclaim you are too.
Is that the sound of gnashing of teeth i hear?.
I would never ask you to BE Holy if you were not? It is not something we attain to, it is something we became aware of that we are, then you can BE holy(Whole) as he IS holy.
You have no idea what holy is and have not explained what it IS. How can Jesus be separated from what he is, which is holy which means he is whole(complete),
Do you mean "wholly"?
Because "Holy" means nothing close to that. It's obvious you simply don't have a clue and are making that up on the spot, or perhaps you've bought into some horrible teaching from someone that doesn't have a clue.
Seriously...that is mind-boggling bad.
Do you know the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"?
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he is our holiness(wholeness) and when we abide in his holiness we too are complete. Yes, Jesus did manifest holiness just like he manifested all the other attributes of God. Are you have a difficult time understanding that we all manifest what we are or believe we are?. Jesus Christ was and is holy, therefore he manifested it. It is not rocket science. He was all that God is manifested in the flesh.
Yes the angels were singing holy, holy, if you listen carefully when you are abiding in the love of God, you will hear them proclaim you are too.
Is that the sound of gnashing of teeth i hear?.
I would never ask you to BE Holy if you were not? It is not something we attain to, it is something we became aware of that we are, then you can BE holy(Whole) as he IS holy.
That's just 21st Century gnosticism. It was declared heretical 2000 years ago.
Because "Holy" means nothing close to that. It's obvious you simply don't have a clue and are making that up on the spot, or perhaps you've bought into some horrible teaching from someone that doesn't have a clue.
Seriously...that is mind-boggling bad.
Do you know the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"?
That's just 21st Century gnosticism. It was declared heretical 2000 years ago.
I made it perfectly clear what i was saying, so I think you know what i meant.
You have absolutely no idea what holy is. What does being separated for the use of God(your understand of holiness) mean, it means absolutely nothing, what is laughable is you searched the internet and got an answer that is so wrong it is untrue.. It is a state of being and what'smore a whole state of being, nothing short of being complete, lacking nothing.
You asked me, Do you know the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"? ..... Do you?.
I will be back in a minute..... i am going to see if i too can find the meaning of holy on google.
I made it perfectly clear what i was saying, so I think you know what i meant.
You have absolutely no idea what holy is. What does being separated for the use of God(your understand of holiness) mean, it means absolutely nothing, what is laughable is you searched the internet and got an answer that is so wrong it is untrue.. It is a state of being and what'smore a whole state of being, nothing short of being complete, lacking nothing.
You asked me, Do you know the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"? ..... Do you?.
I will be back in a minute..... i am going to see if i too can find the meaning of holy on google.
I'm guessing this post either might be deleted? Or you'll simply ignore it? Because the definition has nothing to do with being "whole". You make the same mistake as the guy that writes "I'm going to go over their". The words sound similar, but spelling means everything.
Get yourself a good Bible commentary and look at Isaiah 6. Read what the Hebrew word means for "Holy".
Because "Holy" means nothing close to that. It's obvious you simply don't have a clue and are making that up on the spot, or perhaps you've bought into some horrible teaching from someone that doesn't have a clue.
Seriously...that is mind-boggling bad.
Do you know the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"?
That's just 21st Century gnosticism. It was declared heretical 2000 years ago.
A Baptist minister who no doubt you are familiar with John Piper believes it means to be whole. Not sure if he is fundy or calvinist like yourself or he is like me and makes it up as he goes along.
I'm guessing this post either might be deleted? Or you'll simply ignore it? Because the definition has nothing to do with being "whole". You make the same mistake as the guy that writes "I'm going to go over their". The words sound similar, but spelling means everything.
Get yourself a good Bible commentary and look at Isaiah 6. Read what the Hebrew word means for "Holy".
Why is it you can say it is not this but you fail to explain what is then?. You have no idea.
Why is it you can say it is not this but you fail to explain what is then?. You have no idea.
I gave the definition of Holy. It means separated, dedicated for God's use. It does not mean to be whole. Those are two completely different concepts. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this...I don't mean to try to sound smart, but seriously. If you've been taught that it means to be whole? You've been lied to.
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