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Old 03-28-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: USA
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For the umpteenth time, love IS the nature of God, and so all other attributes of God flow from that foundation. Otherwise, you are saying that the love of God is at war with the rest of what God is; a house divided cannot stand.
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Except that it is NOT. God is also holy, just, righteous and wrathful. They're attributes.
All of God's attributes flow from what God IS: love (a noun, not a descriptive adjective). If your understanding of some of the adjectives that people in the bible used to describe God/love are at war with what God IS then, if you're a thinking person, you'll want to double check your understanding or theirs.

Or simply acknowledge that you don't really believe your bible when it says that God is love.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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No, they're honest. You can believe them. It's easy to tell when somebody is lying. They preface a lot of their statements by saying: "Honestly," or "In all honesty" or "To tell you the truth."

There was a fake preacher here for several years who did it all the time. It was amusing.

Funny, I was JUST thinking about him a second ago.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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All of God's attributes flow from what God IS: love (a noun, not a descriptive adjective). If your understanding of some of the adjectives that people in the bible used to describe God/love are at war with what God IS then, if you're a thinking person, you'll want to double check your understanding or theirs.

Or simply acknowledge that you don't really believe your bible when it says that God is love.
You are making theological statements about God. You reference the Bible, but you ignore the fact that the Bible gives some very clear teachings on the attributes of God that contradict what you're stating.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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Acting like Christ got him mocked, falsely accused and executed. The truth about the cross is offensive to some, and Jesus said it would be so.
true, many don't want to here about Jesus. but what's even sadder, MANY "Christians" refuse to acknowledge the fact that Jesus HAS a Father. even when Jesus words clearly shows he does ,(John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father). God gave us a name to use for a reason (English-JEHOVAH Exo. 6:3). yet MANY refuse to get to know this God. a Christian MUST get to know Jehovah as well as Jesus. who Jesus acknowledges as... the "ONLY TRUE GOD", (John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent). peace
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Right. Everyone but you is lying. Just ask you!
Don't be absurd. Of course not everybody lies.

But a decade of moderating a very busy forum honed my ability to spot frauds.

And I'm very, very good at it.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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Don't be absurd. Of course not everybody lies.

But a decade of moderating a very busy forum honed my ability to spot frauds.

And I'm very, very good at it.
Ah...the irony!
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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You are making theological statements about God. You reference the Bible, but you ignore the fact that the Bible gives some very clear teachings on the attributes of God that contradict what you're stating.
Like I said, if you think some things in the bible contradict the clear statement that God IS love, that's your clue to double check your understanding or theirs.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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Like I said, if you think some things in the bible contradict the clear statement that God IS love, that's your clue to double check your understanding or theirs.
I would suggest you ought to believe all the Bible, not just the parts you find happy and cheerful.

Just answer this for me: What makes you believe that the one verse you actually believe is the one correct one? Why is IT the authoritative verse on God and all the rest is wrong?
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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All of God's attributes flow from what God IS: love (a noun, not a descriptive adjective). If your understanding of some of the adjectives that people in the bible used to describe God/love are at war with what God IS then, if you're a thinking person, you'll want to double check your understanding or theirs.

Or simply acknowledge that you don't really believe your bible when it says that God is love.
Do you believe this?

Isaiah 6:3

3 And one called to another and said:
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts;
the whole earth is full of his glory!”
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Ah...the irony!
He has a solid method. If you say 'honestly', and are not in his 'tribe', then you are lying.
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