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Old 09-12-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I see. So far I have seen no correction, only meaningless claims.

Let's start with this:

"God regards certain human behaviors and attitudes as sinful"

Please explain how it is wrong, and provide the "correct" version for it.

You are referring to the god-thing in the bible? It was created out of the imaginations of primitive, barbaric men. What they believed their god-thing "regards" means less than nothing to me.


But the fact barbaric, primitive men today believe that nonsense, is what I have to rebuke and correct.


And the correct version is adherence to the Golden (not Godly) Rule. Unless, of course, you are a masochist.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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I see. So far I have seen no correction, only meaningless claims.

Let's start with this:

"God regards certain human behaviors and attitudes as sinful"

Please explain how it is wrong, and provide the "correct" version for it.
It is wrong because it is AMBIGUOUS and has no clear explanation as to what "behaviors" are sinful.

Secondly, if god created man in a sinful state, how can god rightly and justly judge man?
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You are referring to the god-thing in the bible? It was created out of the imaginations of primitive, barbaric men. What they believed their god-thing "regards" means less than nothing to me.

But the fact barbaric, primitive men today believe that nonsense, is what I have to rebuke and correct.

And the correct version is adherence to the Golden (not Godly) Rule. Unless, of course, you are a masochist.
So you felt that repeating the same meaningless nonsense would make it look like you answered the question.

I asked if it is a core Christian belief that God (the Christian God) regards certain human behaviors and attitudes as sinful.

I did not ask you think about God.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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So you felt that repeating the same meaningless nonsense would make it look like you answered the question.

I asked if it is a core Christian belief that God (the Christian God) regards certain human behaviors and attitudes as sinful.

I did not ask you think about God.
You don't like my answer, Mr. Twister?

I'll cry myself to sleep tonight.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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It is wrong because it is AMBIGUOUS and has no clear explanation as to what "behaviors" are sinful.
If you don't understand it, just say so. Don't say it is wrong because you cant understand it.

How about murder? Do you think God might consider it sinful?
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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So you felt that repeating the same meaningless nonsense would make it look like you answered the question.

I asked if it is a core Christian belief that God (the Christian God) regards certain human behaviors and attitudes as sinful.

I did not ask you think about God.
The problem with your question is the term "sinful." It is ambiguous because of the different understanding of the nature of "sin" between the "Old Testament" in which it means breaking one of the laws of God: specific actions against specific rules. Under the "New Covenant" it is regarded as violating the principle of love in dealing with our fellows and in our relation to God.

So the question is which one do you go by, Mosaic or Christian? A lot of people think Mosaic IS Christian, but it is error.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Arent the 10 commandments from the OT too?

Strange that christians still recognize these laws, even though the New covenant did away with the old.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The problem with your question is the term "sinful." It is ambiguous because of the different understanding of the nature of "sin" between the "Old Testament" in which it means breaking one of the laws of God: specific actions against specific rules. Under the "New Covenant" it is regarded as violating the principle of love in dealing with our fellows and in our relation to God.

So the question is which one do you go by, Mosaic or Christian? A lot of people think Mosaic IS Christian, but it is error.
Sorry it's a problem for you.

The question is simple: Are certain human behaviors sinful.

Its telling you don't have an answer to it.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Sorry it's a problem for you.

The question is simple: Are certain human behaviors sinful.

Its telling you don't have an answer to it.

It's more telling that you find your simplistic answers in a book written by barbaric, anonymous men.
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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Arent the 10 commandments from the OT too?

>>>%Strange that christians still recognize these laws, even though the New covenant did away with the old.<<<<
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