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09-10-2018, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kjw47
God became like a first-time parent when he created beings. He learned along the way. Proving he is not omniscient-- He made many laws in the ot, then discovered man couldn't live by them all. So God made a new covenant with man= LOVE.
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Well, you have the sequence right but you misattribute the cause. WE were the ones who didn't understand. WE were the ones who needed to evolve and mature. WE were the ones who needed to be trained to control our animal urges using a fear of God until WE developed the ability to control our baser urges. WE were the ones who were "ripe for the harvest" at the time of Christ. WE were the ones who could learn to control ourselves out of agape love for one another instead of fear. Jesus revealed and demonstrated that ability to perfection and prepared the path for us by His death and Rebirth as Spirit. His Holy Spirit now connects us to God and abides with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts" so we would not need any man to teach us.
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09-11-2018, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
Well, you have the sequence right but you misattribute the cause. WE were the ones who didn't understand. WE were the ones who needed to evolve and mature. WE were the ones who needed to be trained to control our animal urges using a fear of God until WE developed the ability to control our baser urges. WE were the ones who were "ripe for the harvest" at the time of Christ. WE were the ones who could learn to control ourselves out of agape love for one another instead of fear. Jesus revealed and demonstrated that ability to perfection and prepared the path for us by His death and Rebirth as Spirit. His Holy Spirit now connects us to God and abides with us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts" so we would not need any man to teach us.
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Yu must have missed the fact--Jesus trained teachers to teach those who had no clue. And the bible says if one rejects those teachers they are rejecting Jesus and God as well( Luke10:16)And again the bible promises that here in these last days-Jesus would appoint his teachers again--to teach. So yes one does have to be taught by the teachers Jesus appointed.
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09-11-2018, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RainMusic
This is an outrageous statement blaming God for making mistakes rather than blaming men for writing down things that they thought God said that were not true. I don't know how you can believe such a thing.
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I didn't say God made any mistakes. He has his holy standards and tells mortals they MUST live by them--Yes mortals are not very intelligent compared to spirit beings. God saw it wasn't working. Its not his fault. Our first mortal parents chose this satan ruled system. That is what wrecked it. |
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09-11-2018, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kjw47
You must have missed the fact--Jesus trained teachers to teach those who had no clue. And the bible says if one rejects those teachers they are rejecting Jesus and God as well( Luke10:16)And again the bible promises that here in these last days-Jesus would appoint his teachers again--to teach. So yes one does have to be taught by the teachers Jesus appointed.
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Originally Posted by kjw47
I didn't say God made any mistakes. He has his holy standards and tells mortals they MUST live by them--Yes mortals are not very intelligent compared to spirit beings. God saw it wasn't working. Its not his fault. Our first mortal parents chose this satan ruled system. That is what wrecked it.
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Your teachers were not appointed, so you must follow a Satan ruled system of belief. |
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09-11-2018, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kjw47
I didn't say God made any mistakes. He has his holy standards and tells mortals they MUST live by them--Yes mortals are not very intelligent compared to spirit beings. God saw it wasn't working. Its not his fault. Our first mortal parents chose this satan ruled system. That is what wrecked it.
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Let’s follow your line of argument , What was not working ? |
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09-11-2018, 10:25 AM
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PLEASE explain what are the certain human behaviors and attitudes that are sinful as the core truth of Christianity?
Are these behaviors specific to "christianty" only, or do other religions also acknowledge these behaviors as "sinful?"
Does this include alcohol, or just drunkenness?
SEX, or just sex for pleasure, not procreation?
stealing food when you are hungry, or just stealing money from the poor via over pricing and manipulating the supply and demand cycle?
Greed of hoarding by the poor, or are corporations exempt for hoarding billions as the poor die?
Sexually abusing another person, or are people in power who grope women and children exempt?
Embracing a sinner who does evil in the eyes of god as if they were the second coming?
I am seriously seeking clarification of what behaviors and attitudes are sinful and defy the core truth of just christianity.
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09-11-2018, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SumTingy
Excellent summary. I would love to see you go deeper about how the New Age philosophy has infiltrated Bible believing churches.
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It's simply hedonism and it's been there all along.
The New Covenant was because man could not keep the O.T laws, the fundamentals...devote fundamentalist are as scarce as hen's teeth...being religious and against ss does not make one a fundamentalist. |
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09-11-2018, 10:51 AM
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How do you explain the Old testament God then? Some of the crazy laws God demanded of his people?
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What do you find crazy about the 19th chapter of Leviticus |
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09-11-2018, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kjw47
God became like a first time parent when he created beings. He learned along the way. Proving he is not omniescent-- He made many laws in the ot, then discovered man couldn't live by them all. So God made a new covenant with man= LOVE.
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If I may take the liberty to say God became a parent when the created his first creation in the heavens - Rev. 3:14 B.
More like His creation 'learned along the way' by whether they obeyed their Father or not.
The temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law was there to show imperfect people that they could Not stop sinning.
It was 'imperfect mankind who discovered' they could Not live up to the Mosaic Law.
As soon as Adam sinned God make provision for us at Genesis 3:15 (first prophecy) that God would send us a promised ' seed ' (or offspring) to be Messiah for us, and this proved to be Jesus.
And Jesus gave us that NEW commandment at John 13:34-35 to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has. |
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09-12-2018, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kjw47
Yu must have missed the fact--Jesus trained teachers to teach those who had no clue. And the bible says if one rejects those teachers they are rejecting Jesus and God as well( Luke10:16)And again the bible promises that here in these last days-Jesus would appoint his teachers again--to teach. So yes one does have to be taught by the teachers Jesus appointed.
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Nonsense. |
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