ALL Sexual Immorality INCLUDING Homosexuality is a SIN..accept it, get over it and REPENT! (punishment, Messiah)

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by snj90

How many people here who want to speak for homosexuals have actually had a homosexual relationship? Yes, I did. I didn't just want to commit the sin. I committed that sin. I confess that to you and pray to God for mercy. But I know I have already received mercy, and salvation through God's grace. In fact, I will tell you, when the homosexually-inclined child of God realizes that he is still eternally loved by God, despite his sins, it is the realization of an overpowering Love that cannot even remotely compare to anything the homosexual lifestyle can possibly offer you.

If it was a lifestyle then you made the choice, but many are born the way they are without making the choice of who they are attracted to, anymore than that of a heterosexual. So, maybe you did sin against your natural inclination to be heterosexual.

[BeerGeek40]

Originally Posted by SAAN

So we have super long threads trying to justify this as normal, the will of God or accept me or your a bigot. If you disagree with the lifestyle its not your opinion, its now hate speech, but if the LGBTQ and backers call you names for not agreeing, its not consider hate speech.


Lets compare homosexuality, with adultery and incest, which are other forms of Sexual immorality listed by God.

For Adultery, I dont hear any one say, God made me this way to want multiple women/men, so Im going to cheat on my spouse and you better not say its wrong or you're a bigot. Actually you're an adulterphobe for not supporting my lifestyle of adultery and I should be able to openly be in adultery in the church too, dont judge.

LGBTQ says whats wrong with 2 committed adults doing what they want behind closed doors.

How about incest. Whats wrong with 2 loving and committed family members having sex with each other behind closed doors. God made them that way, despite where it says in scriptures that is a 100% no no, just like he did on homosexuality. If you say anything against people that commit incest and are open about it in the church too, yore a bigot or incestaphobic.


All 3 scenarios are listed as the sin of Sexual immorality by God and must be repented of. Jesus didnt speak on incest and bestiality, but that doesnt make them okay either. He didnt have to speak on homosexuality, because they all knew it was a abomination to God to live like that, it was wrong, goes against nature and the will of God and considered sexual immorality, so no need for Jesus to go in detail about something that is obvious to them like STOP at a stop sign is obvious to us in our current times.


Whole issue summed up right here.

Is Gay marriage or LGBTQ lifestyle backed by scriptures? NO
Is Gay marriage or LGBTQ lifestyle a sin according to scriptures? YES

Does God recognize marriage between anything other than a man and woman? NO
Is sex outside of marriage a sin according to scriptures? YES
Is homosexual sex outside of marriage sexual immorality according to scriptures ? YES
Is heterosexual sex outside of marriage sexual immorality according to scriptures ? YES

Does the bible say sexual immorality is a sin in the OT and NT? YES
Does the bible say people who practice sexual immorality will not go to heaven? YES


Its that simple, God doesnt hate a homosexual/lesbian, even though he calls their lifestyle an abomination, he still loves them. What he hates is the sin of sexual immorality and it must be repented of and it applies to gay and straight people. Since God sees sex outside of marriage as a sin and will never recognize a gay marriage, homosexuality will always be sexual immorality which is a SIN, just like adultery and fornication.


IN THE BEGINNING

Genesis 1:27
27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Genesis 2:24
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
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JESUS CONFIRMS WHAT MARRIAGE IS

Matthew 19
3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him,“Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”
4 And He answered and said to them,“Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said,‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
7 They said to Him,“Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”
8 He said to them,“Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”


So Jesus taught from the Torah and it is pretty clear and straight forward that marriage is between a man and a woman only, so Gay marriage and homosexuality will never be okay in the eyes of God.


SEXUAL IMMORALITY IS A SIN AND A SIN AGAINST YOUR OWN BODY
1 Corinthians 6:18
18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.


Gay Marriage, Homosexuality, and Sexual Immorality is wrong, no matter how one tries to flip scriptures to suit them. As a true believer we are to let the bible be the standard, not man kinds corrupt traditions. In the end you give an account to Jesus, not mankind.


Lev 18:22, Lev 20:13, Rom 1:24-32, 1 Cor 6:9, Colossians 3:5-7, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:5, Rev 21:8

Colossians 3:5-7
5 Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. 6 Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, 7 in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them.

Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery,[a] fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders,[b] drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:5
5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:8 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

This is pretty much the facts -- the bible is very clear on this -- people just don't want to follow it. People can live their life they way they want - I'm not going to stir up huge debate here. But Jesus's teachings on this issue are pretty straightforward.

[TroutDude]

Originally Posted by BeerGeek40

This is pretty much the facts -- the bible is very clear on this -- people just don't want to follow it. People can live their life they way they want - I'm not going to stir up huge debate here. But Jesus's teachings on this issue are pretty straightforward.

What, exactly, did Jesus say about homosexuality?

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by BeerGeek40

This is pretty much the facts -- the bible is very clear on this -- people just don't want to follow it. People can live their life they way they want - I'm not going to stir up huge debate here. But Jesus's teachings on this issue are pretty straightforward.

Indeed, when it comes to adultery, prostituting yourself before an idol (shrine worship) or abusive behavior. But the language doesn't support condemning loving relationships, nor is love dependent on whether one can procreate. However, it does oppose abusive relationships, even that of harming your neighbor or those who spitefully persecute you for no reason.

[snj90]

Originally Posted by TroutDude

What, exactly, did Jesus say about homosexuality?

You should know what the Law says about homosexuality. Christ, as you should also know, came to fulfill the Law, not to abolish it.

With that in mind, here is what He said:

So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God's laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 5:19

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by Led Zeppelin

Have you ever addressed this issue yourself? No. Probably not. Unless you're willing to tell us that you think all laws should be overturned. Or can you explain why secular laws should be governed by ANY preceptions EXCEPT the ones you disapprove of?

Were you actually trying to make any sense at all?

[nateswift]

Originally Posted by snj90

You should know what the Law says about homosexuality. Christ, as you should also know, came to fulfill the Law, not to abolish it.

With that in mind, here is what He said:

So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God's laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 5:19

so, how do you feel about shrimp?

[TroutDude]

Originally Posted by snj90

You should know what the Law says about homosexuality. Christ, as you should also know, came to fulfill the Law, not to abolish it.

With that in mind, here is what He said:

So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God's laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 5:19

Do you wear mixed fabrics? Ever eaten shrimp? Ever sat where a menstruating woman previously sat?

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by snj90

You should know what the Law says about homosexuality. Christ, as you should also know, came to fulfill the Law, not to abolish it.

With that in mind, here is what He said:

So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God's laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 5:19

What is the least, and what is the greatest commandment(s)?

[Mightyqueen801]

Originally Posted by geekigurl

Me, I resist that temptation by ogling handsome older men.

. Hey, me, too!

Oh, and Chris Hemsworth in his Thor persona.