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I am considering the whole counsel of God. The scripture teaches total depravity, even from the womb man is spiritually dead to God. Mans heart by nature is wicked Jer 17:9
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
A person is born naturally with this heart.
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
See all men by nature are spiritually dead to the True God, yet he can be alive to false gods and religion. Man naturally can choose a god, an idol from his own imagination, but he cannot choose, seek after, desire the True God Rom 3:11
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
The word seek means :
to seek out, search for
to seek out, i.e. investigate, scrutinise
to seek out for one's self, beg, crave
to demand back, require
Man doesnt do any of these things as it regards the True and Living God
And its no coincidence its the same word that characterizes True Faith in the True God Heb 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Man naturally is at enmity against the True God in his mind , so he doesnt seek Him or desire Him Rom 8:7
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
I am considering the whole counsel of God. The scripture teaches total depravity, even from the womb man is spiritually dead to God. Mans heart by nature is wicked Jer 17:9
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
A person is born naturally with this heart.
You keep referring to the OT which was talking about our primitive savage ancestors. Are you still an ignorant, primitive, savage, barbarian? If not, then none of that applies.
See mans heart by nature is the evil heart found in that very same verse Matt 12:35
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
Gods word describes the heart of man here also Gen 6:5
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
You keep believing man is evil and I will by the grace of God see what he sees in All.
If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. Genesis 4:7 In this instance we see his brother doing well and Cain not doing well. We see this theme throughout the scriptures, and if you had eyes to see, you would know as Paul said
So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law;
but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me.
For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh. The flesh is not what we are and neither is it our true nature. If you are awake to your own inner being you would know that its source is God, so be careful who you are calling evil. Our inner being is one thing and sin in the flesh is another thing.
Blessed is the man to whom the LORD does not impute iniquity, And in whose spirit there is no deceit. I think you should start acting like God and STOP imputing sin.
Grace super abounds over sin to silence the condemner like yourself. You can make a s much noise about sin as you want, but the super abounding grace of God will always drown your voice out. Repent!
I am considering the whole counsel of God. The scripture teaches total depravity, even from the womb man is spiritually dead to God. Mans heart by nature is wicked Jer 17:9
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
A person is born naturally with this heart.
No, what you teach is Calvinism, which is a false doctrine.
Man by nature, spiritually dead, are lost and without hope Eph 2:12
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Now i understand Paul here in the context is referring to the Gentiles, however and nevertheless this describes all men by nature in spiritual death, even jews.
Notice Paul writes these people were had no hope of Salvation, and they were without God. Why is that ? Paul is speaking spiritually, for even gentiles as creatures have God as a Creator, but spiritually they are without God and without hope. This describes the lost state of man by nature. To say man can naturally seek the True God contradicts this fact !
No, what you teach is Calvinism, which is a false doctrine.
I teach scripture truth and you scoff at it by calling it calvinism, after a man.
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