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Old 11-17-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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Oh, and for you :
California is unfriendly to business so I don't like it (now, before that was great).Texas,Utah,Washington and Virginia are very friendly to business so I like them
If Texas becomes anti-business one day I'll hate it (but it's pretty unlikely)

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Old 11-17-2010, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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The other thread is in a different forum, that I also moderate. It's on-topic in both, so we'll leave it open in both.
oh, good.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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What's up with all the Texas vs. California threads anyway? The two states are very dissimilar. Too many variables are unaccounted for to compare them in any meaningful way. I just don't understand all the animus.
I agree. I don't know why this keeps coming up!
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Knox - Henderson
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I agree. I don't know why this keeps coming up!
Ditto that. All these city vs. city and state vs. state threads eventually bring out the most immature posters who feel that they have to bash whichever city or state is not their own. It's just so childish.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Default Texas Governor Caught Telling Half Truth on CA to TX Business Relocations

Its all very amusing...I sorta like that he and his ilk are openly chomping at the bits over their envy of California's position as the state with the largest population and economy.

At least its out in the open. Anyway:

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/nov/18/rick-perry/gov-rick-perry-says-153-businesses-have-moved-cali/

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"Since the first of the year, 153 businesses at last count had moved out of California to Texas," he[Gov. Perry] said on "Fox & Friends" Nov. 4. Then on Nov. 8, he said it to host Greta Van Susteren on Fox News's "On the Record." Later that day he told the host of Comedy Central's "Daily Show," Jon Stewart, that "153 businesses have moved out of California to Texas since the first of the year through August"
Well, okay...but

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However, Muckerman said, the D&B count does not mean that 153 individual companies pulled up stakes in California to settle in Texas. Muckerman offered this example: If one company with five offices in California keeps its headquarters in state and moves its branches out of state, including one to Texas, that would figure into the D&B count that Perry cites.
Ah! Perspective...

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We wondered how many business sites moved from Texas to California. Muckerman told us there were 92 such moves, leaving Texas with a net gain of 61 business sites from the Golden State.
Wow, more perspective...

And is there ANY doubt that the TX to CA relocations were most likely higher paying, higher skilled jobs than the ones we shipped to TX?

But wait, there's more...

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Originally Posted by Austin American Statesman
Putting Texas' numbers in perspective, he said, 19,585 business sites in the D&B database showed a change of address from one state to another between January and August. Of those, 1,280 relocated from other states to Texas, which ran second to Florida in relocations. Florida's haul was 2,032, Muckerman said.
So actually, FLORIDA IS NUMBER 1 FOR BUSINESS RELOCATIONS. Ahem.

This article from the Austin American Statesman confirms what the California Public Policy Institute has been saying all along:

"[T]he small number of California jobs moving to other states due to business relocation is relatively inconsequential—about 11,000 jobs per year out of more than 18 million (.06 percent). Business births, deaths, contractions, and expansions have a much greater effect on employment."


Claim of California Jobs Moving Out of State Shown by Study to be a Myth | California Progress Report

It also exposes the notion that there is a mass exodus of companies and jobs from California for the MYTH that it is, which is corroborated by this:

It's not true that businesses are fleeing the state, Henton said. Adding up the numbers of businesses that started up compared with those that closed or moved elsewhere showed that the state gained a net average of 58,500 new businesses each year from 1995 to 2008, the report said.

California leads nation in green tech - SFGate
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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You know what Texans say about their state? "Everything is bigger in Texas." I guess that includes lies as well. But when one takes a look at their yahoo governor then it is no surprise that real joker is in Texas.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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You know what Texans say about their state? "Everything is bigger in Texas." I guess that includes lies as well. But when one takes a look at their yahoo governor then it is no surprise that real joker is in Texas.
again, PLEASE do not go down that road.
Stop lumping all of us into one category.
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Midessa, Texas Home Yangzhou, Jiangsu temporarily
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Ditto that. All these city vs. city and state vs. state threads eventually bring out the most immature posters who feel that they have to bash whichever city or state is not their own. It's just so childish.
Lighten up, rivalries are fun. It's like bashing each others football teams, the only real difference is the color of the jerseys but its fun to ham it up and insult them and their fans.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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Its all very amusing...I sorta like that he and his ilk are openly chomping at the bits over their envy of California's position as the state with the largest population and economy.

At least its out in the open. Anyway:

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/nov/18/rick-perry/gov-rick-perry-says-153-businesses-have-moved-cali/


Well, okay...but


Ah! Perspective...


Wow, more perspective...

And is there ANY doubt that the TX to CA relocations were most likely higher paying, higher skilled jobs than the ones we shipped to TX?

But wait, there's more...



So actually, FLORIDA IS NUMBER 1 FOR BUSINESS RELOCATIONS. Ahem.

This article from the Austin American Statesman confirms what the California Public Policy Institute has been saying all along:

"[T]he small number of California jobs moving to other states due to business relocation is relatively inconsequential—about 11,000 jobs per year out of more than 18 million (.06 percent). Business births, deaths, contractions, and expansions have a much greater effect on employment."


Claim of California Jobs Moving Out of State Shown by Study to be a Myth | California Progress Report

It also exposes the notion that there is a mass exodus of companies and jobs from California for the MYTH that it is, which is corroborated by this:

It's not true that businesses are fleeing the state, Henton said. Adding up the numbers of businesses that started up compared with those that closed or moved elsewhere showed that the state gained a net average of 58,500 new businesses each year from 1995 to 2008, the report said.

California leads nation in green tech - SFGate
Uh oh.

Thanks for the owneage, 18Montclair.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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again, PLEASE do not go down that road.
Stop lumping all of us into one category.
My comments are directed to your governor who is a joke. Stop being so defensive or confront the OP for creating this thread. It is easier to attack those being attacked than to confront the attacker.
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