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Old 11-20-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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First of all to be a Texas Homer, naturally Texas must be your home. Since he has never been to Texas then he most certainly is NOT a Texas Homer. So it irritates me when you say all you Texas homers... He is not Texan, stop lumping us into one category. All posters are not the same.

Second of all I am not asking you to ignore the provocation. Did you see me asking anyone who responded directly to the point at hand to stop? no, they are having a discussion. You on the other hand are trying to stir up crap by going after posters. If you are so upset with what he posted, go after what he posted, not Texans who didn't even have anything to do with it. I was one of the first persons to reply and as you see I corrected him, then I come back to see your rants about us?

why can't you have an argument on the merits of the actual arguments without bringing us into it?

My original post for reference showing I did not condone the post:



tell me what about that post warrants you saying that Texas homers have to put down one state in order to bring up Texas and what about it shows inferiority issues? The dumb article was so ripe with stuff you could have shot down like Montclair did, but as always you favor the cheap shots and went after us (who don't even agree with the dumb article to begin with). I am seeing that you maybe the one with the inferiority complex, bringing Texas down constantly in an attempt to put California up. California is a marvelous state dude. Highlight it strengths dude instead of attacking innocent posters
Funny how Californians are always bragging about how "progressive" and "open-minded" they are, then they lump an entire state together based on somebody that isn't even from there.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Actually, California is a microcosm of what's wrong with the U.S. The U.S. would either be worse off if
A) Texas secede.
B) California didn't secede.
You just keep praying that we dont come up with a viable alternative to fossil fuels, cause when that happens, the Arabian peninsula is going back to its rightful place as a sand trap, and I shudder to think what will happen to Texas. Such a sad prospect.

California's fate otoh, does not rest almost entirely on one industry. Aside from producing 50% of the nation's produce, California is the innovation and technology epicenter of the world, that hasnt changed one bit, as far as entertainment, Los Angeles is the premier entertainment production center in the US and by default a major global media capital. California is a manufacturing, engineering, research, trade and commerce and transportation juggernaut.

The World's 8th Largest Economy, and is by far the most famous and well known US State.

Furthermore, California is not hated in the outside world the way TX probably is due to our last President.

It would be very easy for California to negotiate its own enegry contracts with countries that we dont hate, like Venezuela, like Indonesia, like Russia and so on. Even Canada and Mexico. We have plenty of options.

And China Im sure would love to trade with CA by itself, not to mention the EU, Japan, Asian, Latin America and so on.

Already richer and more famous than most nations, California would have little troubling instantly becoming one of the world's most powerful nations.

No sweat.

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Even on a cold, rainy day, its still a good day over here.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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That's the great thing about Texas. We don't give a crap about what others think
That's obviously not true.

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Texas and Texans make up most of the military. We know how to avoid running a state into bankruptcy. A large percentage of us do not suck on the government's teet. We are a resilient bunch and overall better people.
If this helps you feel smug or something then by all means own it, but just to shed some light on the issue of quality of life:

California actually has a higher standard of living than the US Average and Texas' standard of living is considerably less than the US Average. Perhaps you might want to work on improving that before you point fingers at another state. fyi.


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[SIZE=4][/SIZE]Nov 16th 2010, 16:30 by The Economist online
How selected American states compare to various countries

THE human development index (HDI) is an attempt to give a snapshot of a country's success by combining three important indicators: health, education and wealth. The most recent global HDI ranking from the United Nations' Development Programme places Norway top, with the United States fourth (out of 169 countries). But with over 300m people living in 50 states, America varies greatly, so the American Human Development Project releases a state-based version of the HDI. We have put the two indices together to see where America's states would rank if they were countries. Because the indicators used in the two indices were slightly different, we calculated our index from scratch using comparable data (though we used a proxy for educational attainment). Our index still has Norway as number one but America drops to eighth.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:52 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!
The South has risen. You have a $4-5 Trillion economy, 120 Million+ People, and a host of things to be proud of.

But ya know, Loving Texas shouldnt automatically equal Hating California.

Many people, myself included, have no problem with either state.

Unfortunately a bunch of vitriol is hurled at us from Texas these days, from the mouth of your own Governor in fact. Which is fine, but I would like to remind Governor Perry that according to the United Nations, California is more developed than Texas and Californians have a superior quality of life overall, than Texas.

So, you can brag about your pluses and we'll brag about ours!
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Old 11-21-2010, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Since the average citizen in California can afford a lot less than the average citizen in Texas.
And yet no Texas Metro Areas are among the Metros that save the most money? hmmm.


2007 Nest Egg Index-Cities with the most savings
In the third annual Nest Egg Index, we ranked the 500 top-performing communities based on their residents' personal savings and investing behavior. By measuring a dozen statistical factors - including participation in retirement savings plans, personal debt levels and home ownership - the Nest Egg Index shows the geographic regions where people are succeeding and facing difficulty with their nest eggs. In this year's results, communities that ranked highly in the Nest Egg Index continue to benefit from strong local housing markets and show a high propensity toward saving and investing in retirement vehicles such as 401(k) or pension plans. And while these communities had higher costs of living than the national average, nineteen out of the top 20 also had lower debt levels.

1 Los Alamos, NM
2 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA
3 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT
4 Torrington, CT
5 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA
6 Barnstable Town, MA
7 Minneapolis-St Paul-Bloomington, MN
8 Holland-Grand Haven, MI
9 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA
10 Edwards, CO
11 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-MD-VA
12 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA
13 Gardnerville-Ranchos, NV
14 Rochester, MN
15 Red Wing, MN
16 Appleton, WI
17 Faribault-Northfield, MN
18 Trenton-Ewing, NJ
19 Naples-Marco Island, FL
20 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT
21 Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA
22 Norwich-New London, CT
23 Lexington Park, MD
24 Boulder, CO
25 Juneau, AK

Nest Egg Index - Your Financial Nest Egg: A.G. Edwards
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Old 11-21-2010, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Wow, those are some major sized metros you put up there. Some really big cities. Megacities, you could say. Geez, they are definitely on the same size as DFW and Houston.
San Francisco and San Jose which are connected combine to a population of over 6 Million and DC is also well over 5 Million.

Californians also seem to have less debt per consumer.

Experian Ranks 20 Major Metro Areas by Average Debt Per Consumer
May 13, 2010
1 Seattle $26,646
2 Dallas $26,599
3 Denver $26,428
4 Atlanta $26,063
5 Phoenix $26,035
6 Houston $25,790
7 Washington DC $25,702
8 Tampa $25,603
9 Philadelphia $25,544
10 Orlando $25,316
11 Minneapolis $25,115
12 Detroit $24,995
13 Sacramento $24,826
14 Chicago $24,781
15 Boston $24,670
16 Cleveland $24,669
17 New York $24,444
18 San Francisco $24,429
19 Miami $24,334
20 Los Angeles $24,009

Experian Ranks Top 20 Major U.S. Metropolitan Areas By Average Debt Per Consumer
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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Then how come Texas has a higher budget deficit per capita?
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Old 11-22-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Midessa, Texas Home Yangzhou, Jiangsu temporarily
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Then how come Texas has a higher budget deficit per capita?
The deficit for Texas is only a guess. The legislature is not in session now and real numbers won't be available until January.
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:10 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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The deficit for Texas is only a guess.
Is that why lawmakers are already talking about backing out of Medicaid? To plug a non-existent budget hole?
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Old 11-22-2010, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Midessa, Texas Home Yangzhou, Jiangsu temporarily
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Is that why lawmakers are already talking about backing out of Medicaid? To plug a non-existent budget hole?
Every lawmaker has their own ax to grind. There probably will be a budget gap, we just don't know how big it is.
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