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None of this is true. The Fairfax/Wilshire districts is not "packed with pedestrians" (it's mostly postwar auto-oriented), and there is not a big difference between the Grove and Farmers Market.
The two complexes blend seamlessly, and, in fact, the Grove was built on former Farmers Market land. It's quite normal to eat dinner on one side and buy something on the other side. The parking is shared, too.
I meant one is historical and the other is a fairly new development. yes they are basically the same place.
I supposed packed was the wrong word to use, but there are few places in the US that are 6 miles away from the CBD and have that level of pedestrian activity. Maybe Chicago along the lake and obviously NYC.
Here's another "Only in LA and NYC" - the Upright Citizen's Brigade Theater:
I'm so done with you. You're too irrational. Most people know nothing about Brooklyn? Hmm, where and when did you have the time to ask every person this. You are gifted, I'll give you that. Malibu is a small strip of land near the beach where yes some rich people live. Brooklyn is a borough with a population almost the size of LA itself. It has its own beaches and its own rich people. Trust me, people have heard about Brooklyn. I suggest you stop with your nonsense right now. It's beyond ridiculous. Seriously, I cant' debate stupid anymore. I'm going to let you have the last say and whatever nonsense you spew will get no reply. I'm going to lunch. So have a nice day.
Once again, you are not really looking at the thread objectively. Do enjoy your lunch.
I have to go somewhere, but I want proof. And if what you are saying is true, then it might be because they forced us to carpool which would lower those numbers drastically and wouldn't be very accurate either. But, I've lived in many cities and LA was by far the most car oriented. Going to lunch. I'll be back. Have your proof ready.
He's right if you look at metro-wide stats. I remember them, but I don't have time to look it up. If you went by the city center, Los Angeles would not be.
He's right if you look at metro-wide stats. I remember them, but I don't have time to look it up. If you went by the city center, Los Angeles would not be.
Maybe by city center it is not #2, but I would imagine it is still in the top tier. Overall, people in Los Angeles drive a lot less than people think they do.
I don't think most people on the east coast know much about Malibu other than it's a rich beach town with movie stars.
The name of Malibu is probably much more famous than the place itself. It's basically just a nice stretch of coastline with some nice houses along the PCH, but in terms of looks, there's nothing especially iconic about it. More people would probably recognize Venice Beach(or Santa Monica) based on looks alone(at least a streetscene on the boardwalk might be recognizable).
Malibu as a word though became sort of something to market products--Malibu Rum, Malibu Barbie, Chevrolet Malibu, Malibu Grand Prix...none of which have anything to do with Malibu itself. You just name something "Malibu" and put a palm tree on the label...
I don't think most people on the east coast know much about Malibu other than it's a rich beach town with movie stars.
Actually even if thats the thrust of what most people around the world know about Malibu, that's more than what most people around the world know about Brooklyn.
Malibu is on tv around the world, Malibu is often referred to in entertainment related news and media programs around the world.
By contrast, there isnt even a reason for Brookyn to be mentioned the same way, is there?
By contrast, there isnt even a reason for Brookyn to be mentioned the same way, is there?
Apparently you're unaware that Brooklyn is one of the most iconic places on the planet, and is specifically a metaphor for alternative/youth culture, and the whole "hipster" scene.
That's why, from Berlin to Hong Kong to Sao Paulo, you have constant references to Brooklyn in terms of a certain typology of dining/fashion/music/etc. It's essentially the closest thing to a "Left Bank" in terms of global youth culture.
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