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This is a climate thread. Miami Beach is marginally warmer in January, but in July, I would a thousand times rather be in Santa Monica than Miami Beach, which in July is close to hell. Plus in SM, you are in the midst of one of the most cosmopolitan MSAs in the US. In Miami beach you are in deeply parochial Eurotrash, Cuban, expat New Jersey tedium. Miami is the largest MSA in the US without a major university. In close to a hundred years, no-one has ever had a thought in Miami beach. SM is a helluva lot smarter than Miami Beach.
This is a climate thread. Miami Beach is marginally warmer in January, but in July, I would a thousand times rather be in Santa Monica than Miami Beach, which in July is close to hell. Plus in SM, you are in the midst of one of the most cosmopolitan MSAs in the US. In Miami beach you are in deeply parochial Eurotrash, Cuban, expat New Jersey tedium. Miami is the largest MSA in the US without a major university. In close to a hundred years, no-one has ever had a thought in Miami beach. SM is a helluva lot smarter than Miami Beach.
Knowing that what exactly was the point of most of your post seeing as it had nothing to do with climate?
Definitely Miami Beach, those temps are perfect for the beach imo. Santa Monica is nice and comfortable most of the time but not really" warm" and the nights are very chilly. MB def looks and feels a lot more tropical than Santa Monica.
Miami =/= Miami Beach. That's like me pulling out climate data for Los Angeles. Are you really this dense or are you trolling on purpose. Plus, it's not clear Santa Monica hasn't seen freezing, this 33 degrees was recorded over the pier, and who knows how long those records were going for.
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its not just "my map" its the USDA map and plantmaps map
Even in the everglades you have tropical vegetation growing like
Better yet if you actually think Santa Monica is in 11a, then show me Santa Monica's coconut palms, literally all over Miami Beach, I have at least 4 in my backyard that drop fruit all over me. Where are Santa Monica's coconut palms, show pictures
Fact is Miami has all the palms that grow in Santa Monica but has palms Santa Monica cannot grow because we're in a different and better hardness zone.
I prefer Santa Monica's temperatures for winter, but the low humidity looks unbearable some days.
Miami Beach and Santa Monica probably have similar humidity during the winter. Santa Monica is not bone dry, it's moderated by the Ocean and I'm guessing it's humidity levels are in the 60s, maybe even low 70s. Miami Beach is similar just 10-15 warmer.
This is a climate thread. Miami Beach is marginally warmer in January, .
Miami Beach is 10-15F warmer in the winter. Not really marginal, and imo, that 10-15 basically make one a beach destination and the other one not. Who wants to hit the beach when its 60s, or even low 70s? Maybe only sun starved tourists will attempt at low 70s.
In the summer Miami Beach is also just 10-15F warmer. Average summer temps is 88-92F for the high. Not terrible by any means.
Miami Beach is 10-15F warmer in the winter. Not really marginal, and imo, that 10-15 basically make one a beach destination and the other one not. Who wants to hit the beach when its 60s, or even low 70s? Maybe only sun starved tourists will attempt at low 70s.
In the summer Miami Beach is also just 10-15F warmer. Average summer temps is 88-92F for the high. Not terrible by any means.
L.A has tons of microclimates and if you piecemeal different aspects of each microclimate and cherry-pick anomalous situations, you can easily make L.A. look hotter than Miami. L.A-Mex likes to point out how the valleys of L.A. see average highs in the 90s in summer while Miami's average highs in summer are in the 80s; therefore L.A. is hotter in summer. But the focus on this thread is Santa Monica vs Miami Beach.
Okay: Santa Monica has never recorded a freeze before and Miami has. Santa Monica has seen highs in the 90s in winter and Miami hasn't. Miami's average summer highs are lower than Santa Monica's winter record highs. Those are true BUT this is also true.
Santa Monica's AVERAGE JULY highs are LOWER than Miami's AVERAGE JANUARY HIGHS. FACT.
Santa Monica has average summer highs in the low 70s when Miami has average January highs in the upper 70s! Santa Monica hitting 90 once every 3 years in winter and Miami getting a freeze once every 10 years does not change this fact.
Miami is warmer than Santa Monica about 98 percent of the time if you factor in night time lows year round and over 99.9 percent of the time if you factor in heat index. A humid 88 F (almost every summer day) in Miami feels hotter than dry 96 F during the odd heat wave in Santa Monica (happens once a year).
When planning a beach vacation, people look at average weather, not anomalies.
Miami Beach= hands down better beach weather at any time of the year. Santa Monica sometimes gets poor beach weather even in summer when the fog/June Gloom are slow to burn off. Miami may get poor beach weather about 5 days a year (either due to cold snap or hurricane/tropical storms). Summers get a lot of afternoon thunderstorms but the mornings are almost always beach weather.
Santa Monica= better jogging, cycling, hiking, tennis weather most of the year. Highs in the 60s or 70s most of the time all year round. Even occasional heat waves of 90 F plus have low humidity so you don't sweat as much. Stable weather where you know you won't get rained, ever, from May through October so you can go on long hikes and plan afternoon sporting events.
Both climates have much better outdoor weather in winter than 95 percent of the U.S. but they are very different from each other and Santa Monica can take pride in having "comfortable room temperature" weather most of the year while Miami Beach can take pride in having "hot beach weather" most of the year.
Okay: Santa Monica has never recorded a freeze before and Miami has.
So what? Are you aware that Miami Beach is a separate city? Just like Santa Monica is a separate city from Los Angeles? That Miami Beach has its own climate as it's surrounded to the west by Biscayne Bay and to the east by the Atlantic ocean?
Btw that freeze in Miami was recorded in the airport. Which is the western side of Miami. It's like me taking data from the San Fernando Valley for Los Angeles which didn't see the lowest temp at 32, but saw it in the teens.
Your grasping at straws to even compare Miami Beach than Santa Monica. MB is consistently warmer in every measurement.
I find it hard to believe SaMo is a 11a while Miami Beach is in 10b. What plants can be grown in SaMo that can't be grown in Miami?
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