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View Poll Results: DOES DC HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH NYC OR ATLANTA
NYC 38 36.89%
ATLANTA 65 63.11%
Voters: 103. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-29-2015, 03:50 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure "more in common" has to do with more than just walkability. That's a part of it but geesh, it's not the end-all, be-all.

 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar View Post
The streets aren't alike. The houses aren't alike. The sidewalks aren't alike. The transit isn't alike. D.C. houses, streets, and sidewalks look way more like NYC than Atlanta. I don't follow you here at all. The reality is that D.C. isn't like either.
That's the point...DC isn't like either, and I think that point was made several times in this thread. But which one is DC MORE like? The answer is Atlanta - in size, shape, demographics, etc. No one thinks Atlanta and DC are just alike. Thank God.
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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I fail to see how this makes DC more similar to NYC than Atlanta. In NYC, only 34.5% of residents over the age of 25 are college educated.

Atlanta and DC become even more similar when looking at the non-Hispanic White population.

Washington, DC (89.40%/$108,629)
Atlanta (76.16%/$84,036)
San Francisco (72.31%/$95,011)
Seattle (63.8%/$71,393)
Boston (62.29%/$71,625)
Miami (59.88%/$62,009)
Dallas (56.30%/$66,270)
Chicago (55.99%/$68,254)
New York (52.15%/$72,295)
Houston (52.82%/$71,908)
Los Angeles (51.83%/$67,252)
Baltimore (50.26%/$58,046)
Milwaukee (35.41%/$47,316)
Philadelphia (34.80%/$50,164)
Detroit (23.96%/$26,391)
Cleveland (23.81%/$33,581)
Atlanta and DC have more similarities than NYC and DC. Some people's heads might explode just by the mere mention of Atlanta with DC, but we all know it's true.
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:38 PM
 
Location: DC
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What are you talking about?Atlanta and D.C. are JUST a like!Our MARTA is better than METRO by far and Atlanta is SOOO much more walkable than D.C.
In fact D.C. doesnt even have a streetcar like Atlanta!!
D.C. is more similar to Charlotte and Atlanta is more closer to New York.


Are you not able to understand how this forum works?The OP asked a question.If may be a flawed question but I answered it .
Dont be mad at me because most of the people in the poll voted Atlanta.

the fact that you wish to argue a non subject regarding how DC is not like Atlanta shows some serious insecurities.
Are you kidding me. Have you ever been to DC? It is clearly not the case. Have you even bothered to look at DC's walkscore and Atlanta's. Or bothered to look at the corresponding heat maps. This must be a flipping joke. I have already pointed out numerous data points which shows these two cities, are nothing alike.

In terms of the Metro. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Marta is a joke in comparison. You are comparing the second most trafficked heavy rail transit system in the US (Metro) with Marta, which doesn't even touch the scope of the metro system. Seriously we have more lines, more stops, far better reach in terms of our transit system.

DC again....658,000 people in a much smaller geographic area, Atlanta, has 440,000.

Seriously quit trying to compare metro areas to, you want to make this city vs city. Atlanta is not even in DC's league in terms of population size and density.

I have raw data behind me. The point I am making is these two cities should not ever be compared to each other, ever. Period.
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: DC
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I'm pretty sure "more in common" has to do with more than just walkability. That's a part of it but geesh, it's not the end-all, be-all.
Actually walkability is pretty close to the be all end all in comparing cities. If the cities are not close in terms of walkability, they shouldn't even be compared. Walkable cities are very different than car centric, non-walkable ones. There are also far fewer of them in the US. If a city is more car centric, it should not be compared to a walkable city, period.
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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Are you kidding me. Have you ever been to DC? It is clearly not the case. Have you even bothered to look at DC's walkscore and Atlanta's. Or bothered to look at the corresponding heat maps. This must be a flipping joke. I have already pointed out numerous data points which shows these two cities, are nothing alike.

In terms of the Metro. HAHAHAHAHAHA

Marta is a joke in comparison. You are comparing the second most trafficked heavy rail transit system in the US (Metro) with Marta, which doesn't even touch the scope of the metro system. Seriously we have more lines, more stops, far better reach in terms of our transit system.

DC again....658,000 people in a much smaller geographic area, Atlanta, has 440,000.

Seriously quit trying to compare metro areas to, you want to make this city vs city. Atlanta is not even in DC's league in terms of population size and density.

I have raw data behind me. The point I am making is these two cities should not ever be compared to each other, ever. Period.
Wow. Someone is a little too touchy about their city...calm down.

Cities are compared on city-data ALL THE TIME. It's very common. Your superiority is noted, but it's totally misplaced. You are not representing your city well right now.

The second ranked transit system compared to the seventh ranked transit system. Seems like a decent comparison to me.

DC 658,000; Atlanta 447,000; NYC 8.4 million. Which two are similar? As far as density, maybe it would be better to compare 35 square miles of central Atlanta to DC...they might just end up a little closer in density and it would be a fair comparison.

Atlanta isn't nearly as walkable as DC - no one said that it is. But to go to the other extreme and say that Atlanta has no walkable areas is completely false. There are plenty of walkable neighborhoods in Atlanta...most of them connected by rail transit. That is a fact.
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: DC
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
I fail to see how this makes DC more similar to NYC than Atlanta. In NYC, only 34.5% of residents over the age of 25 are college educated.

Atlanta and DC become even more similar when looking at the non-Hispanic White population.

Washington, DC (89.40%/$108,629)
Atlanta (76.16%/$84,036)
San Francisco (72.31%/$95,011)
Seattle (63.8%/$71,393)
Boston (62.29%/$71,625)
Miami (59.88%/$62,009)
Dallas (56.30%/$66,270)
Chicago (55.99%/$68,254)
New York (52.15%/$72,295)
Houston (52.82%/$71,908)
Los Angeles (51.83%/$67,252)
Baltimore (50.26%/$58,046)
Milwaukee (35.41%/$47,316)
Philadelphia (34.80%/$50,164)
Detroit (23.96%/$26,391)
Cleveland (23.81%/$33,581)

Although people think of Boston as being full of rich White people, it turns out that NHWs in Atlanta actually have a higher median household income and are better educated. Core Atlanta can go toe-to-toe with any major American city as far as SWPLness goes.

My initial point is neither of these cities are similar to DC, and DC is close to neither one. But the comparison to Atlanta should never be made. But one thing that is common between NYC and DC, is they are at least walkable cities, though NYC is on an entirely different, higher level. Atlanta though is not so should NEVER be compared to DC. Again DC is pretty flat out exceptional in some ways though itself, where no other city can compare (% of the city with a graduate degree).
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Actually walkability is pretty close to the be all end all in comparing cities. If the cities are not close in terms of walkability, they shouldn't even be compared. Walkable cities are very different than car centric, non-walkable ones. There are also far fewer of them in the US. If a city is more car centric, it should not be compared to a walkable city, period.
Wow.Says only you.

Washington D.C. Lowers Traffic Fines | Traffic School Online
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/au...ta-traffic.jpg

DC is so "walkable" yet its traffic is wrse than Atlanta's.Based on those pictures they are indistinguishable other than the signage.
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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DC and Atlanta are the two most transient places in America. I guess you could call the culture of both regions "transplant" culture.

Arlington, VA (25,523 outmigrants/12.6%)
Alexandria, VA (16,927 outmigrants/12.3%)
Fulton County, GA (99,732 outmigrants/10.5%)
Washington, DC (56,349 outmigrants/9.8%)
Suffolk County, MA (60,031 outmigrants/8.4%)
San Francisco, CA (61,028 outmigrants/7.6%)
Manhattan, NY (113,162 outmigrants/7.1%)
Travis County, TX (65,533 outmigrants/6.5%)
Montgomery County, MD (54,828 outmigrants/5.7%)
Alameda County, CA (81,033 outmigrants/5.4%)
Middlesex County, MA (80,431 outmigrants/5.4%)
King County, WA (101,445 outmigrants/5.3%)
Brooklyn, NY (116,811 outmigrants/4.7%)
Philadelphia, PA (68,228 outmigrants/4.5%)
Cuyahoga County, OH (52,304 outmigrants/4.0%)
 
Old 04-29-2015, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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People from DC are not known for being nice, that much we have in common with NYC.
I don't understand why DC posters say this. Honestly, I don't think the actual residents of Washington are much known for anything. And I don't say that to be mean or spiteful; I just don't think that people know enough about DC to have an opinion about the people there one way or the other. It's not like there are many movies or TV shows that focus on the non-political aspects of the city.
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