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Old 10-20-2015, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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lol. Houston posters. You don't have to get emotional on every aspect of your city. All of know both Houston and Dallas are hot in the Summer especially during the day. But many prefer Dallas hot weather because it's tolerable and drier during the day and it at night, the air is not as muggy as it is in Houston.
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Old 10-20-2015, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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I enjoy Houston's gulf breeze like I enjoy Houston's very extensive subway system. That is to say, its hard to enjoy something that doesnt exist.

And perhaps, Anthony, you missed my post about the humidity levels in both. Houston is significantly more humid than Dallas, period. And the average high in Houston in summer is 93. The average high in Dallas is 96. Thats three degrees which is not much when you throw humidity on top of it.

Youre grasping at straws for something that happens, statistically, every three to four days (summer downpours). Houston isnt Singapore where it does rain every day. It cools down in the area where there is rain, however, Houston is so geographically huge, it almost never rains over the whole city in the summer.

Regarding Jack Lance's chart, did you miss the part where the relative humidity in Houston is far higher in Houston? Thats what makes people unconfortable, not the heat itself.
Peter and "others" that is what a heat index is about. It combines the actual temperature with the relative humidity to form a "feels like" number which is also called a heat index. The relevance of the chart is to show when you factor the heat and humidity the feels like numbers in DFW and Houston are almost identical, with DFW actually being a tenth of a degree higher. So arguing that the humidity in Houston makes the heat harder to deal with is disingenuous when the facts show that a individual is in the long run is as equally miserable in one as the other in the Summer.

Now we all know that Houston's winters are milder and that is due to Houston not only being 250 miles further south but also our proximity to the Gulf Coast which will tend to keep adjacent land areas a bit warmer as well. So you see the Gulf not only influences the Houston winters but the Summers as well.
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Old 10-20-2015, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Now we all know that Houston's winters are milder and that is due to Houston not only being 250 miles further south but also our proximity to the Gulf Coast which will tend to keep adjacent land areas a bit warmer as well. So you see the Gulf not only influences the Houston winters but the Summers as well.
And yet, its the humidity that people find difficult to deal with. Im a long distance runner and I was used to running in DFW's 96-100 degree heat. It takes more energy to run in Houston at 90 degrees than DFW at 100 degrees. Why? Its the humidity. It all goes back to the humidity. Houston is sticky as all get out. If there is a Gulf Breeze to be had, I certainly havent felt it.

Youll get no arguement from me that Houston's winters are more mild. Thats why I prefer the weather here overall. But the summer evenings in Dallas are much nicer than the ones here. Perhaps you and Anthony should go spend a summer there so you can see what Im talking about.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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And yet, its the humidity that people find difficult to deal with. Im a long distance runner and I was used to running in DFW's 96-100 degree heat. It takes more energy to run in Houston at 90 degrees than DFW at 100 degrees. Why? Its the humidity. It all goes back to the humidity. Houston is sticky as all get out. If there is a Gulf Breeze to be had, I certainly havent felt it.

Youll get no arguement from me that Houston's winters are more mild. Thats why I prefer the weather here overall. But the summer evenings in Dallas are much nicer than the ones here. Perhaps you and Anthony should go spend a summer there so you can see what Im talking about.
Pete the humidity is an integral part of what the heat index is. You cannot separate them as if one has nothing to do with the other. Your personal anecdotes aside what the heat index means is that on average people will find summers in Houston and Dallas equally as oppressive or delightful whichever the case may be, and that is what the chart I posted shows.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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Pete the humidity is an integral part of what the heat index is. You cannot separate them as if one has nothing to do with the other. Your personal anecdotes aside what the heat index means is that on average people will find summers in Houston and Dallas equally as oppressive or delightful whichever the case may be, and that is what the chart I posted shows.
During the day, yes. Both are horribly opressive. Theres no true winner there.

However, at night, Dallas summers are more pleasant. Thats my arguement. Having lived in both, Ill stand by that. The average low at night in the middle of summer in Dallas is 76, in Houston its 75. Its still humid at night in Houston, its dry in Dallas. I dont think it takes much to understand where Im coming from.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:26 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Here's the humidity levels for Dallas. Not seeing much in the way of "dry".



Both cities are considerably humid; one a bit more so than the other.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Northwest Houston
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And yet, its the humidity that people find difficult to deal with. Im a long distance runner and I was used to running in DFW's 96-100 degree heat. It takes more energy to run in Houston at 90 degrees than DFW at 100 degrees. Why? Its the humidity. It all goes back to the humidity. Houston is sticky as all get out. If there is a Gulf Breeze to be had, I certainly havent felt it.

Youll get no arguement from me that Houston's winters are more mild. Thats why I prefer the weather here overall. But the summer evenings in Dallas are much nicer than the ones here. Perhaps you and Anthony should go spend a summer there so you can see what Im talking about.
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During the day, yes. Both are horribly opressive. Theres no true winner there.

However, at night, Dallas summers are more pleasant. Thats my arguement. Having lived in both, Ill stand by that. The average low at night in the middle of summer in Dallas is 76, in Houston its 75. Its still humid at night in Houston, its dry in Dallas. I dont think it takes much to understand where Im coming from.
Your moving the goal post Pete. You said it took more energy to run at 90 degrees in Houston as 100 degrees in Dallas, are these nighttime temps you are running in. BTW I am a runner too, I have not run in North Texas but I have run in Central Texas and find the ability to shade run in Houston to offset the difference in humidity and then some. Not to mention level ground consuming less energy than uneven terrain.

Also to go back to where Houston breezes come from. When I run in the summer I always find I am headed into a breeze when I am running to the south and with the wind when running in a northerly direction and this is almost without exception in the Houston summers.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I don't think anyone has said Dallas is dry. We are saying it's drier than Houston especially during the afternoons in the summer and early evening.
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Old 10-20-2015, 03:07 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I don't think anyone has said Dallas is dry. We are saying it's drier than Houston especially during the afternoons in the summer and early evening.
No, peter clearly described Dallas as dry in a post above, and the humidity levels I posted show that is definitely not the case. Average relative humidity remains above 50% all year long.

During July and August, Dallas is noticeably drier when those SW winds roll in and disturb the Gulf winds that are usually dominating. You also have those drier periods in fall where the sky is pretty cloudless, but this happens in Houston as well.

Dallas is dry much in the same way that many Upper South cities are, just with a lot less rainfall. It's still a humid city, though, with a substantial amount of greenery to boot.

Amarillo is somewhat dry. El Paso is definitely dry. Dallas is more like Houston than either of those two cities.
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Old 10-20-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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No, peter clearly described Dallas as dry in a post above
Show me.

More dry than Houston, aboslutely.

Dry like Arizona, no.
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