City and Metro Murders 2017... (state, largest, crime, place)

[Nibbidy]

I wonder how many cities include justified homicides into their total. I think Birmingham and Nashville and Memphis do. I could be wrong.

[Sharif662]

Originally Posted by Nibbidy

I wonder how many cities include justified homicides into their total. I think Birmingham and Nashville and Memphis do. I could be wrong.

The police departments don't include them in the US. Media outlets include them overall for maximum effect of casualties of course.
Ex: There was a Memphis billboard at the beginning of the year that slandered the police department indirectly on their being 220 homicides in the city when actually homicides was around 198 per say.

[Texamichiforniasota]

Originally Posted by Nibbidy

I wonder how many cities include justified homicides into their total. I think Birmingham and Nashville and Memphis do. I could be wrong.

They are usually just reported as homicides, as determining whether they are justified can take prosecutors and then juries years to decide. The source a lot of people use for LA numbers is the LA Times Homocide Report, and the number even include officer involved shootings. This year so far there were 15 suspects killed by LAPD, and all of them will likely be ruled justifiable, but they are still there in that total number for LA.

[Chicagoland60426]

Originally Posted by Nibbidy

I wonder how many cities include justified homicides into their total. I think Birmingham and Nashville and Memphis do. I could be wrong.

Do Memphis and Birmingham typically have a lot of police-involve and self defense homicides?

Chicago certainly doesn't. Otherwise the city would have recorded an official 808 murders in 2016, instead of the 762 or 765 that the FBI listed.

[Sharif662]

Originally Posted by Chicagoland60426

Do Memphis and Birmingham typically have a lot of police-involve and self defense homicides?

Chicago certainly doesn't. Otherwise the city would have recorded an official 808 murders in 2016, instead of the 762 or 765 that the FBI listed.

Generally just around 10 - 12 justified & unknown on police related. I think you Chicago is about the same or more of course.

[f1000]

LA County at 617

Los Angeles Murders and Homicides - The Homicide Report - Los Angeles Times

Much better than previous years

[f1000]

Bay Area at 227

Bay Area homicides 2017: Map and details

Interestingly SF itself is at 53 vs Oakland at 66

[BPt111]

Originally Posted by f1000

Bay Area at 227

Bay Area homicides 2017: Map and details

Interestingly SF itself is at 53 vs Oakland at 66

Oakland beccoming next Brooklyn

[Nibbidy]

Originally Posted by f1000

Bay Area at 227

Bay Area homicides 2017: Map and details

Interestingly SF itself is at 53 vs Oakland at 66

St. Louis only has about 30 fewer homicides than the whole Bay Area...think about that population difference....combined with E. ST Louis they have more than the whole Bay Area.

[jayo2k]

Originally Posted by f1000

Bay Area at 227

Bay Area homicides 2017: Map and details

Interestingly SF itself is at 53 vs Oakland at 66

7.68 Millions people with only 227 homicides? That's low. No cities/metro fro the south can brag with such low numbers