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Old 08-09-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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Florida is better in all ways. Well, with Miami being exception
Weather alone is worth it, but it got other perks too.
Personally, I think New York is better in all ways. Weather included.

Florida is America's senior living center with a side of crazy criminals. All inside a sauna. Hard pass.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Personally, I think New York is better in all ways. Weather included.

Florida is America's senior living center with a side of crazy criminals. All inside a sauna. Hard pass.
After living in Both Florida and New York. New York definitely trumps Florida. Even Upstate.

To me, the nightlife, people, weather, beaches (yes.. beaches), economy and walkability is much better. \
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Old 08-09-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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Meanwhile, FL is raking in billions as many flee high tax states, such as NY (3rd highest outflow) and other Northeastern states —including higher net worth individuals—for The Sunshine State.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...can-movers.amp

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...igh-tax-states

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...onaire-florida

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...dus-accelerate

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Old 08-09-2019, 08:00 PM
 
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Meanwhile, FL is raking in billions as many flee high tax states, such as NY (3rd highest outflow) and other Northeastern states —including higher net worth individuals—for The Sunshine State.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...can-movers.amp

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...igh-tax-states

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...onaire-florida

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...dus-accelerate
A lot of people that leave NY just move to suburbs or parts of the NYC metro in NJ or even PA too. Meaning, they are still within the sphere of NYC.

Also, some of it is from retirees as well.

With this said, NY still has a higher GDP in totality and per capita. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...itories_by_GDP
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:22 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Meanwhile, FL is raking in billions as many flee high tax states, such as NY (3rd highest outflow) and other Northeastern states —including higher net worth individuals—for The Sunshine State.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...can-movers.amp

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...igh-tax-states

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...onaire-florida

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...dus-accelerate
New Yorkers might leave for a number of reasons, not just high taxes, although granted high taxes is a big reason.

--- high taxes like you say
--- high COL in general
--- Housing is expensive and overpriced for what you get (Downstate)
--- people become fed up with overcrowding and heavy traffic all the time (Downstate)
--- the weather (especially Upstate)

Probably similar situations in other Northeast states.
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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After living in Both Florida and New York. New York definitely trumps Florida. Even Upstate.

To me, the nightlife, people, weather, beaches (yes.. beaches), economy and walkability is much better. \
That is my general opinion as well, although I love Florida for visiting.

It would be interesting to see what Florida would be like today if they had an income tax all these years like New York, New Jersey or most other states for that matter. I think she would have a smaller population but the question is by how much.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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taxes is definitely my reason for wanting to leave the north east. paying 45% of my income towards state/federal taxes, rather move to florida or texas and bring that down to 35% and even bring my property tax down along with it.
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:22 PM
 
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Florida
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:46 PM
 
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After living in Both Florida and New York. New York definitely trumps Florida. Even Upstate.

To me, the nightlife, people, weather, beaches (yes.. beaches), economy and walkability is much better. \
Beaches? Are you kidding me? Barely swim-able are only July, Aug and Sep:
https://www.seatemperature.org/north...-york-city.htm

Since July and Sep are "swim-able" only part of them, it makes it ~2 month of "sorta" acceptable beaching.

It would be goo to make some fact-checking before posting.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Having visited both but lived in neither, Florida all the freakin’ way. Yeah taxes, blah blah. I like the freewheeling Florida life better, it still has echoes of its pirate past. Hurricanes are a negative, but then again, with Raynaud syndrome, at least winter isn’t a physical hardship down there, and I don’t have road salt eating a perfectly good car.

This is so far from a contest, I am almost laughing.

Then again, the desert Southwest beats both by an even bigger margin.
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