[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

So the time of the 3rd Parties. No Parties to be beholden to and fresh unique ideas!

you need to read between the lines better. Oz is the ultimate sell out even more than Stefanowski. Who do you think the "Hartford Metro Alliance" that Oz keeps bragging about represents ? That's all you need to know about Oz. And as a former teacher (Oz) one would think he would be smart enough to know he's being played.

[RunD1987]

https://www.metrohartford.com/newsro...sident-and-ceo

Think they mentioned was CEO for 16 years and looks as he ran the ship pretty well.

As voters we need to not look at Parties or be afraid of another candidate winning. We need to unite and vote on the candidate that will benefit Connecticut for the years to come. The candidate that has a detailed plan laid out.

The only candidate I believe that is Oz and Monte.

Do encourage many voters take a look at Oz please and see what he is all about.

[SAE72]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

CT is not liberal or progressive and Daniel the Dino hasn't done anything to change that. There's no real liberal and/or progressive state in the country. At best CT is neutral / populist.


The last real progressive was Franklin D Roosevelt. No Democrat in CT or nationwide can touch him.

An attempted analogy between the Pre, Depression and Post Depression years under FDR to the majority issues and the economic and political climate of today is simply off base. The reasons for the Progressive stance of FDR at that time is entirely different from the Democratic Party today. I could easily create a long list of modern Progressive ideology that didn’t even exist during the FDR years.

Among all the good, including being the first President to incorporate a spoke wheel model of cabinet and administrative functions,, he also attempted to pack the Court with Judges when some of his ideas couldn’t get traction. That my be one of the few issues similar to today’s modern Democrat Party, as they constantly look to the Courts when their agenda fails to make it through a Legislative process. He also incorporated excise taxes, and we all know how favorable the modern Democrat looks at taxation.

However the subject of this thread is today, here and now, and who will be the best at attempting to solve Connecticuts massive economic problems. As I said a pattern of behavior gives the best clue as to what would be coming around the curve.

7 years of control and the Democrats have shown their inability to solve the fiscal issues we face, (how many tax increases have they incorporated ? ) , and they just can’t break their addiction to spending. The more they have, the more they spend. Beyond that, what is the taxpayer getting for their dollar? Go right down the line of CT State Departments and agencies , and the truth reveals scandals, criminal activity , overpaid employees, frustration by taxpayers for results many times with little to no oversight and repercussions .

[Stylo]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

https://www.newhavenarts.org/arts-pa...ave-oz-griebel

Oh good Lord...

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by SAE72

An attempted analogy between the Pre, Depression and Post Depression years under FDR to the majority issues and the economic and political climate of today is simply off base. The reasons for the Progressive stance of FDR at that time is entirely different from the Democratic Party today. I could easily create a long list of modern Progressive ideology that didn’t even exist during the FDR years.

Among all the good, including being the first President to incorporate a spoke wheel model of cabinet and administrative functions,, he also attempted to pack the Court with Judges when some of his ideas couldn’t get traction. That my be one of the few issues similar to today’s modern Democrat Party, as they constantly look to the Courts when their agenda fails to make it through a Legislative process. He also incorporated excise taxes, and we all know how favorable the modern Democrat looks at taxation.

However the subject of this thread is today, here and now, and who will be the best at attempting to solve Connecticuts massive economic problems. As I said a pattern of behavior gives the best clue as to what would be coming around the curve.

7 years of control and the Democrats have shown their inability to solve the fiscal issues we face, (how many tax increases have they incorporated ? ) , and they just can’t break their addiction to spending. The more they have, the more they spend. Beyond that, what is the taxpayer getting for their dollar? Go right down the line of CT State Departments and agencies , and the truth reveals scandals, criminal activity , overpaid employees, frustration by taxpayers for results many times with little to no oversight and repercussions .

Please list for all of us here the scandals, corruption, overpaid employees, and how they receive no oversight or repercussions for these actions.



You should also make a list of state employee positions and tell us how much they should be paid.


you can start with the easy ones like


Superiour Court Judge
Social Worker (aka DCF)
State Police
State prison guards
DMV clerks
Medical school professors
Snow plow drivers
Public Defenders
Civil engineers
DOL employees (aka the people who admin unemployment claims)

[Newtohartfordct]

Originally Posted by RunD1987

https://www.newhavenarts.org/arts-pa...ave-oz-griebel

Alright I am convinced.

[SAE72]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

Please list for all of us here the scandals, corruption, overpaid employees, and how they receive no oversight or repercussions for these actions.



You should also make a list of state employee positions and tell us how much they should be paid.


you can start with the easy ones like


Superiour Court Judge
Social Worker (aka DCF)
State Police
State prison guards
DMV clerks
Medical school professors
Snow plow drivers
Public Defenders
Civil engineers
DOL employees (aka the people who admin unemployment claims)

It would take too much of my time to list them all, but these should keep you busy.


From the top


Jane B. Emons
Luis Rivas- Vasquez
Patrick dragon
Nicholas Aurora
Kimberly Brown


And then there is this:


Thirteen of the 37 workers suspended in the patient-abuse scandal at Whiting Forensic Hospital have either been fired or have resigned or retired so far, officials confirmed Wednesday.
Included in the 13 are all 10 of the workers charged with felony cruelty counts arising from the prolonged physical abuse of patient William Shehadi. The abuse was captured on a surveillance camera in Shehadi’s room at the maximum-security Whiting psychiatric division, part of Connecticut Valley Hospital in Middletown. Most of the patients there, including Shehadi, had been acquitted of crimes by reason of insanity.

As the cruelty cases wind through Superior Court, the Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services is conducting its own internal investigation — an inquiry that will determine whether any of the suspended workers will be allowed to return.
“The human resources investigation is ongoing … It’s a tedious process. We do anticipate more discipline,” said Diana Lejardi, a spokeswoman for the mental health department.


Some of the separated workers opted on their own to resign or retire.
Many of the workers were earning tens of thousands of dollars in overtime.
This was the largest group of state mental health workers to ever be placed on administrative leave at one time

time.
( source Hartford Courant )

[RunD1987]

Not sure on all the agencies in the State. Do think some need more staff. You hear a lot of scuttlebutt of people working 80 plus hours and 1 staff in a heavy population census.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by SAE72

It would take too much of my time to list them all, but these should keep you busy.


From the top


Jane B. Emons
Luis Rivas- Vasquez
Patrick dragon
Nicholas Aurora
Kimberly Brown


And then there is this:


Thirteen of the 37 workers suspended in the patient-abuse scandal at Whiting Forensic Hospital have either been fired or have resigned or retired so far, officials confirmed Wednesday.
Included in the 13 are all 10 of the workers charged with felony cruelty counts arising from the prolonged physical abuse of patient William Shehadi. The abuse was captured on a surveillance camera in Shehadi’s room at the maximum-security Whiting psychiatric division, part of Connecticut Valley Hospital in Middletown. Most of the patients there, including Shehadi, had been acquitted of crimes by reason of insanity.

As the cruelty cases wind through Superior Court, the Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services is conducting its own internal investigation — an inquiry that will determine whether any of the suspended workers will be allowed to return.
“The human resources investigation is ongoing … It’s a tedious process. We do anticipate more discipline,” said Diana Lejardi, a spokeswoman for the mental health department.


Some of the separated workers opted on their own to resign or retire.
Many of the workers were earning tens of thousands of dollars in overtime.
This was the largest group of state mental health workers to ever be placed on administrative leave at one time

time.
( source Hartford Courant )

In your examples the employees were punished, but you said there was no repercussions and/or punishment for rogue employees.


Also, if the state employee count is 50,000 you listed 15 employees that went rogue. That is a great percentage that any employer that size would love to have.


And what makes you think private sector doesn't have rogue employees ? What makes private sector employment so pure ?

[SAE72]

I listed but a few. I could keep you busy all day long looking up the individuals that are publically identified, and then there are those that are not revealed in the media.
The repercussions that exist are subject to the opinions of the taxpayers who vote and pay the bills. Should a UCONN Department Head getting paid over $ 300,000 a year plus benefits , just be demoted and receive an unknown salary " adjustment" for not having any contact for over a year with a Professor under her supervision ? As it turns out, the Professor was deceased , but still drawing a salary. Would a private sector employer let you keep your job ?


This has all happened under Democratic Leadership. These issues, along with the continued increased taxation, economic growth lagging behind much of the country and lack of results needs to be strongly considered when voting to elect the next Governor. That's my point. Vote Democratic and you will see more of the same.