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If I was one of these teacher, give me a gun and these F#cks would be put down immediately once they started their little childish rampage.
So your tactical superiority is based upon your ability to approach someone who has already begun their actions. But what if your vision of such a scenario is based upon you being caught off guard, you doing something like teaching perhaps? I would suspect that you would be just as dead as a result. Macho bloviating solves nothing.
This kid had 15 guns. Mom sees nothing, says nothing? Like the Newtown, Ct. mom, her kid was mentally unstable, you could see it in his pictures like a bright red flag waving and she says, "Hey let's go to the gun range and shoot some pistols." I mean, this woman wasn't intellectually "dumb," but what is going on?? Your kid is unstable and he's around guns. See no problem, hear no problem?? It starts w/ the parents. These parents I don't know what to say. It starts w/ the family. If the family doesn't see it or help, then society pays the price.
Underlying issue is the kid has no mentor. His parents are "out to lunch." I'm sure there were plenty of warning signs. His lack of girlfriend, popularity, whatever else is NOT the issue. It could be any issue coming up. We all have issues, but most of us know how to process our "wounds" and not take it out on society. THese young males don't have the mentorship to help them see things in a different light. The only thing they have is to "show they're a man," by coming in w/ guns blazing killing people. If you have a strong support system, you don't act out. Or, it's minimized at least in ways not to cause such carnage onto society.
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This kid had 15 guns. Mom sees nothing, says nothing? Like the Newtown, Ct. mom, her kid was mentally unstable, you could see it in his pictures like a bright red flag waving and she says, "Hey let's go to the gun range and shoot some pistols." I mean, this woman wasn't intellectually "dumb," but what is going on?? Your kid is unstable and he's around guns. See no problem, hear no problem?? It starts w/ the parents. These parents I don't know what to say. It starts w/ the family. If the family doesn't see it or help, then society pays the price.
Underlying issue is the kid has no mentor. His parents are "out to lunch." I'm sure there were plenty of warning signs. His lack of girlfriend, popularity, whatever else is NOT the issue. It could be any issue coming up. We all have issues, but most of us know how to process our "wounds" and not take it out on society. THese young males don't have the mentorship to help them see things in a different light. The only thing they have is to "show they're a man," by coming in w/ guns blazing killing people. If you have a strong support system, you don't act out. Or, it's minimized at least in ways not to cause such carnage onto society.
The number of guns someone owns is not an indicator of anything. I own quite a few guns. Doesn't mean I'm unstable. That said, this guy had a number of flags flying, other than the fact he owned guns, alone. Having washed out of the Army, not even getting through boot, being a biggy. Exactly what his malfunction was, there's no information, and the Army will cut someone loose , who's a total psyche case, on a general discharge, with no following record. I'd be interested to know what the story is there.
His social media ramblings , certainly, had an odor, as does his whole life record. I had brought up his service discharge as an issue , in another thread. Thing is, I believe a LOT of people like him get dumped by the Armed Forces, on an unwitting , civilian population. A dishonorable discharge is grounds to disqualify one from firearms ownership. But, many , who should be drummed out thus, are done under "less than honorable" or just general status. Nor do any but the very worst have any records, public ones, that follow them out.
There should be more...disclosure...regarding reasons someone is disqualified from or let go from, service. Some of these types ARE genuianally dangerous. They scare the Armed Forces, they should scare us civvys. They do scare me. And, there's a LOT of them out there. I , personally, know one individual, who deserted, during Viet Nam, who changes hiss SS # and identity, and didn't get caught till recently. My ex BIL. All they did was amend his DD214 to "less than honorable". Pretty sad. So, I think certain aspects of discharge from service could be a place to start looking for nut cases like this. Many SHOULD be disqualified from owning firearms, and would be, IF the system were more thorough.
I'm not talking about people who just aren't cut out for service. I'm talking about the nut cases, that just get dumped back into civilian life because they are genuianally spooky.
So your tactical superiority is based upon your ability to approach someone who has already begun their actions. But what if your vision of such a scenario is based upon you being caught off guard, you doing something like teaching perhaps? I would suspect that you would be just as dead as a result. Macho bloviating solves nothing.
Never fails that the keyboard kommandos show up though. Its easy to say "I would a done xyz" when you're not actually in the given situation. Reality is quite different than perception. One can train and condition ones whole life, a d when the balloon goes up for real, all of it goes out the window. Things are NEVER the same as someone might envision them as being.
So, for anyone to say "I woulda done xyz and ended the show"....well, as you said, it just so much bloviating. Thinking about what you might do in a life or death situation, a d what you will actually do in that situation, are two different things. The adrenaline a d whole range of things that come crashing down when its for real, tur s everything upside down and inside out Then there's the aftermath. All the second guessing and questioning yourself. A whole wide , nasty, world of crap suddenly opens up. Even the most justified cases of self defense will leave a person physically a d mentally drained, from all the conflicting emotions.
So, yea, the armchair tactical whizzes should give it a rest.
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And, there's a LOT of them out there. I , personally, know one individual, who deserted, during Viet Nam, who changes hiss SS # and identity, and didn't get caught till recently. My ex BIL. All they did was amend his DD214 to "less than honorable". Pretty sad. So, I think certain aspects of discharge from service could be a place to start looking for nut cases like this. Many SHOULD be disqualified from owning firearms, and would be, IF the system were more thorough. 
