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Old 10-02-2015, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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And the slippery slope argument that trumps your insanity is that a person armed like him could have gotten the drop on an armed security guard who is working at a school easily if that was his goal. He killed himself, don't forget, so was willing to die.

What you'd have to end up is with a heavily armed guard in a bullet proof enclosed bunker in every school in the country, as opposed to some common sense about guns. Why? Because of Red Dawn fantasies and a bunch of powerless men who need to feel more powerful.....not far off from the perp in this case.

I'm not expecting it to ever change because the gun culture is so landed here in the US, and the Constitution is on the gun nuts side, but any person who isn't a complete gun fetishist knows what the issue is here. Disconnected losers on the internet is itself an issue, but not the main one. It just so happens that disconnected losers happen to be some of the most adamant gun fetishists with their false flag idiocy.
There are 16 separate buildings on 100 acres at this particular campus. It would be necessary to have an armed bunker in each building and even then.........no guarantees.

I agree with your conclusions.
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Old 10-02-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Wow, that's the most naive thing I've read today. What do you think the FBI does? They've got ways of finding people who are on their radar. It's top secret, obviously, but that is what they specialize in. They're not Superman, but they've got some crazy intelligence tools.
I have sat down at a PC at my local library to search for a name of a particular book. Absolutely nothing was required of me to do so.

Some urban and suburban libraries with reasonably close proximity to church or community shelters are full of homeless people during the day, especially during the winter. More than half are visibly disturbed. It does not stop them from hogging the pcs and we are not talking job sites, here. Libraries everywhere are being challenged by patrons who use their internet to access porn and hate websites/ forums. Nothing quite like watching some guy fondling himself over porn in a public library.
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Old 10-02-2015, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Calvert Hall '62 View Post
Another shooting in a gun-free zone.

Imagine that.
The school was not a gun- free zone.

Imagine that.
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Old 10-02-2015, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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A gun free zone means nothing if it's not enforced.
Colleges in Oregon are not gun- free zones.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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Due to our society's focus on short term sexual qualifications over long term partnership qualifications we have a much larger subculture of "lost boys" than we used to have in the past and we have not yet learned how to deal with these people. Until we do, we are going to see more of this sort of thing. Remember, 40 years ago gun laws were more lax than they are today and we didn't see this sort of thing nearly as often. New gun laws may or may not stop these things from happening in the future(I tend to think not) but it will not get to the root of the problem that is causing the shootings to happen in the first place.

When we decided to completely do away with our traditional morals and family structure, we were inviting all sorts of unintended consequences that we simply did not want to deal with and this is one of them. These people we reject for no longer having a place in the new society don't just go away. They fester, they hurt, they congregate in the underbelly of the internet and sometimes they lash out. There seems to be a push to substitute an erosion of rights for an attempt at finding a solution to the problem. We'll see how that works out.
I think the thing that stands out as different to me now versus decades past is that now there seems to be a sense of entitlement held by young men that they all deserve a super hot girl and easy sex, and if they're denied that then somehow they're getting shafted by life. I do not remember this attitude being so on display previously, this anger at the world for not delivering Victoria's Secret models to their doors.

I think more than anything it is due to the proliferation of porn and the epidemic of porn addiction in young socially awkward guys. They come to believe everyone is having sex like that but them, and they come to both desire and despise the people in them and women in general because they aren't part of that exclusive (to them) club.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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4chan is hardly "social media" more like a message board where the most popular username is "anonymous"

I am on there occasionally and some sections are OK, but others are infested with the worst trolls in cyberspace, like the ones that started the project harpoon.
The trolls on City Data I think is the worst I have found on the internet.
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Old 10-02-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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There are 16 separate buildings on 100 acres at this particular campus. It would be necessary to have an armed bunker in each building and even then.........no guarantees.

I agree with your conclusions.
All you need is a machine gun emplacement every 100 yards or so ...
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Old 10-02-2015, 08:33 PM
 
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Were any blacks killed in this incident?
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Old 10-02-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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Wow!! The really scary part to me is not only how many encouraged him to go through with it, but even after were actually congratulating him! One guy said "you made us proud, man" and other nonsense about a "Beta Uprising" (another clueless guy who blames everyone else for his lack of social skills).

I really thought int he beginning maybe they were encouraging him because they didn't think he was serious. but it is clear some really did want him to do it.
I'm all for tying a fishing line around their tiny ball sacks and dragging them through the street bare naked until their skinned to the bone their balls fall off.

Make an example of them..

all of those that encouraged it.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:16 AM
 
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And this wasn't racially motivated, not one black shot. If all or nearly all the victims? were blacks, what would this be all about
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