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Old 06-18-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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Sorry. I hate alligators. And I don't want to live anywhere I have to worry about my children being eaten. Well, mine are grown but that's a pretty simplified gage of where to live for me.
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Old 06-18-2016, 08:01 AM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Sorry. I hate alligators. And I don't want to live anywhere I have to worry about my children being eaten. Well, mine are grown but that's a pretty simplified gage of where to live for me.
We all have our preferences. I'm not big on alligators, but I watch those parts of the country that regularly see monster tornadoes roaring towards them and wonder how the hell they can live with THAT.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Naw. Imho, if those had been up before, that kid would probably be eating a snowcone this weekend, instead of being buried.
It shouldn't have come to this. According to an article posted here earlier, another patron a few years ago saw two alligators approaching his child in the water, and was able to get the child out of the water in time. He warned several staff members, and was emphatic about the need for clear warning signs and other precautions. Nothing was done.

Instead of being proactive to avoid tragedy, Disney chose to wait until tragedy struck, and to be reactive. This doesn't speak well of Disney and their vaunted child-centered culture.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Instead of being proactive to avoid tragedy, Disney chose to wait until tragedy struck, and to be reactive.
Exactly. And now they are regretting that decision. A child was KILLED by an alligator at a Disney resort. That's going to have a much bigger effect on their business than a few "Beware of Alligators!" signs placed in the park prior to this tragedy could ever have had.

Disney thought they were on top of the situation and so didn't need to warn their patrons of any alligator risk. Unfortunately, they were wrong.

Deliberately keeping people ignorant of an avoidable risk is rarely the right choice, from either an ethical or a business standpoint.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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We all have our preferences. I'm not big on alligators, but I watch those parts of the country that regularly see monster tornadoes roaring towards them and wonder how the hell they can live with THAT.
Never fear: when it opens, Aredhel's Fun Land will have some Tornado Safety signs placed right next to the Twister ride.

(Seriously, though, the hotels here put tornado safety information in the hotel rooms, and most public building have Tornado Shelter signs in appropriate spots in the building so patrons know where to go if a tornado warning is issued. We don't just assume visitors don't need the information because tornadoes are rare, or that everybody knows what to do in the event of a tornado.)
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:10 PM
 
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right? You can prepare for a tornado. You can see it coming and have a plan/shelter/something. They don't exactly sneak up on you!
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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right? You can prepare for a tornado. You can see it coming and have a plan/shelter/something. They don't exactly sneak up on you!
You'd think the fact that, despite 20 million Floridians living together with 1.3 million alligators, the fatality rate is only about one per year would clue you in to the reality that, basically, getting killed by an alligator takes not only a whopping does of negligence by a pretty hefty dose of bad luck as well.

A lot worse luck than it takes to get killed by a car in Florida (~2500 fatalities annually) or, for that matter, every single other state. Or by deer in most states - and, no, when it's night and you're driving the speed limit and a deer comes bounding suddenly out of a ditch or from roadside cover (as they are wont to do), there is essentially zero chance of avoiding it.
Car and Deer Collisions Cause 200 Deaths, Cost $4 Billion a Year

But something about 'scary' animals makes people lose all perspective and rationality...
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Old 06-18-2016, 12:20 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Never fear: when it opens, Aredhel's Fun Land will have some Tornado Safety signs placed right next to the Twister ride.

(Seriously, though, the hotels here put tornado safety information in the hotel rooms, and most public building have Tornado Shelter signs in appropriate spots in the building so patrons know where to go if a tornado warning is issued. We don't just assume visitors don't need the information because tornadoes are rare, or that everybody knows what to do in the event of a tornado.)
That is good to know, should I ever find myself out in the flatlands!
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Old 06-18-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Disney is finally putting up a fence in the spot, to keep people out of the water there.

BREAKING NEWS: Disney World Begins Construction on Shoreline Fence After Alligator Attack
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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You'd think the fact that, despite 20 million Floridians living together with 1.3 million alligators, the fatality rate is only about one per year would clue you in to the reality that, basically, getting killed by an alligator takes not only a whopping does of negligence by a pretty hefty dose of bad luck as well.

A lot worse luck than it takes to get killed by a car in Florida (~2500 fatalities annually) or, for that matter, every single other state. Or by deer in most states - and, no, when it's night and you're driving the speed limit and a deer comes bounding suddenly out of a ditch or from roadside cover (as they are wont to do), there is essentially zero chance of avoiding it.
Car and Deer Collisions Cause 200 Deaths, Cost $4 Billion a Year

But something about 'scary' animals makes people lose all perspective and rationality...
Sort of like Hawaii. You have a better chance of being hit by a coconut than being attacked by a shark. I still hate sharks. (and alligators)
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